Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,06:58)Hi David,You should be beyond milk now. Ready for meat?Nick. Bibles aren't bad. They are good to read.

Quote Since the watchtower society's opinions holds no water here,you will have to produce Scriptural backing on this;well, do YOU have any?, if so, lets see it?Reposting how many times the bible says Jehovah is Godis irrelevant to the point of Heb.12:9. YOU best check with YOUR leaders and see what prefabbed answers they have.Ed, you have been…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,05:39)Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2012,04:34)On acts 51. You lied to the holy spirit (of God).  2. You lied to God.3. You cut the finger (of David).  4. You cut David. We understand that statements such as 3 and 4 can both make perfect sense together:  you cut the finger “of” David.  Or, more generally, you cut David.  An…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,06:46)Hi MB and david,keep searchingNick, it's good to read the bible. I would start there. Just read a little every day. Make notes. Ask questions. Discuss these things with people. Give up pagan and trinitarian ideas. Start from scratch if you must.

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,05:27)Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2012,04:21)Quote There are “only” two (Spirit) positions available in Heb.12:9.This verse allows for no other position of the “HolySpirit”, other than “A” or “B”.A. The “Father of Spirits” is the “HolySpirit”.B. The HolySpirit is one of the “spirits”(?) that the Father of Spirits is the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2012,05:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2012,11:55)Hi David, Yes you cannot understand these things. But they are basic.What does that crap even mean, Nick?  Man up and scripturally defend your claims for once instead of making condescending, nonsensical ad hominems – which we all know are designed to hide the fact…[Read more]

Quote Your “finger” analogy is good, David.  In the past I've used an “ear” analogy with Ed.Of course, it is not my analogy. The bible itself has parallel gospel accounts where the holy spirit is called god finger. Was it not the finger of god that wrote on the tablet? In other places, it speaks of it as his arm. All these things convey…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,04:25)Hi D, Your whole discussion speaks of the Spirit as some sort of a limited tool of God's that you would divide from God Himself.This is not what you mean?Nick, I certainly never said it was limited! Nor did I describe it as a tool. Nick, is this something Catholicism has taught you. Come out of her nick.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,04:55)Hi David, Yes you cannot understand these things. But they are basic.Nick, being a catholic, you are wrong. But if you think you are right, USE YOUR WORDS.

Nick, Catholicism is bad. Separate yourself from it.

On acts 51. You lied to the holy spirit (of God). 2. You lied to God.3. You cut the finger (of David). 4. You cut David. We understand that statements such as 3 and 4 can both make perfect sense together: you cut the finger “of” David. Or, more generally, you cut David. And even though we all realize that it is the spirit “of” God and that…[Read more]

This is the scripture Ed wanted to discuss:Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HolySpirit, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,04:19)So david , How about ps 139.7 for a start.New International Version (©1984)Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence?New Living Translation (©2007)I can never escape from your Spirit! I can never get away from your presence!English Standard Version (©2001)Where shall I go from yo…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,04:17)Hi, The Spirit is OF God and not a TOOL.NICKI don't remember using the word 'tool' anywhere.Are we now creating false arguments just so you can smash them down? How Catholic of you.

Quote There are “only” two (Spirit) positions available in Heb.12:9.This verse allows for no other position of the “HolySpirit”, other than “A” or “B”.A. The “Father of Spirits” is the “HolySpirit”.B. The HolySpirit is one of the “spirits”(?) that the Father of Spirits is the father of. I was wanting to address these other comments before getting…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,04:07)Hi David, Like you I come from catholic roots. but you need to look at the scriptures given and not divert.Nick, with everyone else I shall act appropropriately. But with you, it is hypocritical of you to ask me not to divert, when that is your specialty, your signature, your hobby. And, over time, it is…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Feb. 26 2012,18:30)Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2012,15:20)What I said was:But, god BEING a spirit is not to be confused with something he possesses, something that is often spoken of as something he possesses, HIS holy spirit, the spirit “of God. God IS a spirit. But he also HAS HIS holy spirit, which is what he uses to accomplish his…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2012,15:55)Hi David, Forget the thin and disrespectful JW theology and learn from scripture what the HOLY Spirit also does. Gal 5.16f 1Cor 12Nick, you and your Catholic trinity talk is disrespectful to truth, logic, and all that is good. Your constant illogical ad hominim attacks show how week you are when it comes to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 26 2012,15:42)Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2012,15:39)Quote No, I said I was connecting the dots, it's YHVH that has provided them.I have been explaining them, but you reject the explanation.Posting scriptures and then saying they are dots, is not explaining.  Let's pick one and discuss it.Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 26 2012,15:38)Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2012,15:34)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 26 2012,15:32)Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2012,15:27)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 26 2012,15:19)Quote (david @ Feb. 26 2012,15:14)When it says father of spirits (plural) no, I don't take this to mean the holy spirit.  It is clearly referring to spirits in plural.  Gods holy s…[Read more]