NickHassan,

No need to try to proselytize me. I grew up Christian. I’ve studied tons since I was 16 when God dropped all of my shame. I don’t see salvation the same way as Christians. The Ancient Hebrews saw salvation as being saved out of their situation. Often, when God would save them out of their situation, it would trigger something in their…[Read more]

NickHassan,

I see faith differently than you. I believe faith comes from working through our dysfunctional emotions (fear, anger, grief) and connecting with our true child-of-God self on the other side of them. Everything comes into alignment with one another then (spirit, emotions/heart, mind, body). We get insight from our child-of-God self…[Read more]

Thanks for the link, EdJ. I’ll check that out. That’s pretty interesting.

EdJ,

I’ll only answer a few of these:

1) That is the goal of all translators, or at least it’s suppose to be.

(My answer: Yes, but translators must know the original culture well and must know what the original writers intended. If a translator doesn’t know the old culture extremely well, they’ll completely misunderstand. Also, a translator’s b…[Read more]

EdJ,

Isaiah 14:19-20

Ha! I’d never read through that considering it’s talking about Jesus. Typically, people think it’s talking about Satan. But I always wondered why it called Satan the Morning Star when the Morning Star was Jesus according to Revelation 22. I never studied the passage with the intent to figure out who the Morning Star was it…[Read more]

EdJ,

I just want to thank you for the great discussion. I really enjoy when people are friendly and humble while discussing this stuff.

1. No, I think we have almost no good translations. Usually, the translators are translating from a Western religious viewpoint, and they lack tons of information about the original culture and their sayings.…[Read more]

EdJ,

I’m sorry, I got ahead of myself when I was typing that response earlier. What I should’ve said is, one theory I have is that Jesus was created along with us and because He embodied the WORD, He identified with always having been in existence with God. Or, because we’re all made out of God, Jesus identified with having always existed as part…[Read more]

EdJ,

You said you’re certain that Jesus is part of God. The Bible does seem to point to Jesus being part of God, assuming the Bible is 100% accurate and assuming our translations are conveying the message properly. Our translations are not very good at all, and we could never get a 100% accurate translation due to cultural differences and…[Read more]

Wakeup,

I think you were asking someone else the question, but I’ll give my answer as best I can. I haven’t studied the follow passage very well, so I’m hoping you or others will have better information on it than me.

John 1:14

<sup class=”versenum”>14 </sup>The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the…[Read more]

Terraricca,

I don’t have a problem with anything stated in the Bible. I’m extremely well read and well versed in scripture, more than most people, more than a lot of pastors. The Bible isn’t the problem–the translations are. Learn about translation from a really good source that’s up-to-date, like Jeff Benner, and you’ll quickly see what I’m…[Read more]

Thanks, Gene.

Actually, I take a different approach than Christianity. I believe Jesus, and us, were created and existed with God in heaven before we came here. How long, I don’t know, because eternity has no concept of time. Jesus was part of God just as we were part of God. Now, if He was actually God, I really don’t know. But I know Jesus…[Read more]

Thanks, Gene.

Actually, I take a different approach than Christianity. I believe Jesus, and us, were created and existed with God in heaven before we came here. How long, I don’t know, because eternity has no concept of time. Jesus was part of God just as we were part of God. Now, if He was actually God, I really don’t know. But I know Jesus…[Read more]

Pastor Mark Biltz was the first person to find the blood moons and solar eclipses. He has much better information on them than Hagee. For instance, Hagee’s only showing 4 blood moons and 1 solar eclipse on feast days in 2014-2015. Biltz shows that there are 6 total eclipses (4 blood moons and 2 solar eclipses, all on feast days). I’ve never been…[Read more]

Wakeup,

I may not have explained what I was saying well enough. I was saying that Jesus is the WORD made flesh. But I was trying to explain how the Ancient Hebrews see that statement. Let me try to put it together a little better.

The WORD (the Torah/Teachings/Law) means that what it says points people to God’s nature. The Law is not His…[Read more]

Terraricca,

Oh, sorry. OP = Original Poster (meaning that I was the one who started this thread, posing the initial question).

I’m the OP.

I’ll explain what I believe might be true on this topic. It might be better if I start a new topic, but let’s just go with this thread for now. I’ll also address some things said by people who posted above, such as the term “the WORD.”

God is Spirit:

Abraham was Eastern Philosophy (not to be confused with Eastern religions). We…[Read more]

I’m the OP, just for clarification.

Thanks for all of the replies. I was unaware that anyone had replied to the topic so I thought it was dead (I assumed I’d get an email if someone replied, but I didn’t). I apologize for being gone from the topic for so long. My mistake.

Before I posted this topic, I was pretty certain that Jesus was not the o…[Read more]