Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Marty,
Sounds good. Did you get a chance to read through my original post? It explains that anywhere you see the word “eternal” in the Old Testament, it means “future,” and when you see “eternal” in the New Testament, that means “age.” “Everlasting” is the same…it means “future” or “distant future” in the Old Testament and “age” or “age of…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Marty,
I don’t mean this in a bad way, but you’re being a hypocrit and you don’t realize it. I’m not calling you a hypocrit, I’m just saying that what you said is hypocritical. I’ll explain.
You said that you don’t trust what I’m saying and you believe hell is eternal because you believe what the Bible says. And yet I showed you what the Bible…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
t8,
Thanks for the post.
You’re gonna make me break out the more literal Greek on you. lol
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.In that verse, the more literal translation is, “…that whoever be believing in him shall not be perishing but…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Marty,
Thanks for the reply.
I’m not interested in debate, but I’m willing to discuss and share ideas. I’ll point out just a few things real quick regarding your post and the topic at hand.
You quoted Ephesians 1:10 – That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Proverbs 20:3 – Avoiding a fight is a mark of honor; only fools insist on quarreling.
Proverbs 12:15 – Fools think their own way is right, but the wise listen to others.
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Proverbs 20:3 – Avoiding a fight is a mark of honor; only fools insist on quarreling.
Proverbs 12:15 – Fools think their own way is right, but the wise listen to others.
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
No, my stopping this conversation has nothing to do with “the message of Christ.” It has everything to do with you having zero respect for others due to your incredible arrogance, and the fact that you’re not trying to have a civil discussion…you’re trying to be right and that’s all you care about, but you hide it under the guise of…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
If you’re Christian, then you are Western philosophy whether you realize it or not. Western philosophy is very different than Eastern philosophy. And one cannot understand the Ancient Hebrews without understanding ancient Eastern philosophy (not to be confused with the Eastern religions which have twisted it). And one cannot fully understand what…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
So, how did it feel when I said to you what you said to me about maybe not having received the Holy Spirit and not being enlightened to understand Jesus words? It probably didn’t feel too, good. Probably made you feel a little stupid if you took it personally. It was a pretty cruel thing to say to someone. It implies that you are…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
These prophecies I’m talking about are well known. Someone told me not long ago, “If you don’t understand the scripture’s prophecies, it is perhaps because you did not receive the holy spirit of truth and are not enlighten to understand Jesus words.” Have you ever considered that that could be the issue? 🙂
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
These prophecies I’m talking about are well known. Someone told me not long ago, “If you don’t understand the scripture’s prophecies, it is perhaps because you did not receive the holy spirit of truth and are not enlighten to understand Jesus words.” Have you ever considered that? 🙂
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
The Bible says Israel will never be cast away and will always be God’s people, and that their nation will never cease once they return to Israel again. In fact, there are prophecies in the OT that say Jesus will come down on the Mount of Olives and walk through the Lamb’s Gate in Jerusalem and the Jews will see him and ask, “Where did you get…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
How about you post the scripture in full because you only said John 4:21. You didn’t actually quote the verse. So I wasn’t sure exactly which passages you were referring to.
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
I didn’t put words in your mouth. I was very careful with my wording. I said it “sounded” like you just said you were living like Jesus lived and God had taught you all truth. You basically said to me that since I don’t understand prophecy the way you do, then perhaps I’m not saved…because if I were, God would reveal the truth about…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Also, I would never claim that I’m right about anything. I just can’t do that. I think I’m probably correct about several things, but because I know that there’s very little we can know for certain in this life, I can’t in good conscience claim I know anything for certain. That’s the only way to be truly objective and open-minded. If I assume I’m…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
I’m guessing you believe people are in Abraham’s bosom, in either the happier place or the not-so-happy place. That’d be the way I understand it, too. There’s Paradise and there’s hell, basically. It wasn’t that way in the Old Testament before Jesus. The Ancient Hebrews believed a person’s spirit slept when they died, until the Son…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
I’m guessing you believe people are in Abraham’s bosom, in either the happier place or the not-so-happy place. That’d be the way I understand it, too. There’s Paradise and there’s hell, basically. It wasn’t that way in the Old Testament before Jesus. The Ancient Hebrews believed a person’s spirit slept when they died, until the Son of…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Jesus says, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father except through me.” Notice that Jesus did not say that a man could only come to him before death. And in fact, we see the people of Noah’s time saved after they died. So Jesus is simply saying that he’s standing at the door of heaven, and everyone has to go through him…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
The first death is physical death. The second death is hell. That’s why the second death is said to have no power over those who are born again. They go straight to heaven rather than having to endure a period after their first death where they are continuing to be dead spiritually. So they’re first dead spiritually while on earth and…[Read more]
Brian replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years ago
Terraricca,
I think you misunderstood what I was saying about the Bedouins. They aren’t more advanced than Jesus. The purpose they serve is to help us understand Abraham’s beliefs and understand translation better, both of which help us understand the Bible.
By Jesus’ time, the Jews had been in captivity of Western nations, so they had picked up…[Read more]
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