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    @Carmel,

    I have been to Mechon Mamre, but they use the JPS translation and am not really a fan of it as it reads very similar to the KJV. The positive with the JPS is they haven’t changed the tenses of verbs to make them appear to be referring to the future. Additionally, because I don’t know Hebrew, the site became pointless; so I found ano…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 3 months ago

    Hi DT,

    You: @Carmel,

    Why would I go with an Aramaic translation when we have access to the Hebrew? You found an interesting translation;

    how long did it take for you to find that butchering of God’s word?

    ME: for the sake of the truth:

    ALL MY LIFE:

    FROM MY SIDE THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE DOING AS WELL!!! NO???

     

    HERE IS WHAT YOU ASKED F…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    Why would I go with an Aramaic translation when we have access to the Hebrew? You found an interesting translation; how long did it take for you to find that butchering of God’s word?

    KJV “Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    Consulting the Talmud!?!? That’s not a path I would dare venture down at this point in my studies; I’m wanting to make sure I understand what God said first before trying understand the meanings behind what a bunch of sages debated.

    You quoted from Sanhedrin 37b – 38a “Rabbi Yoḥanan says: Exile atones for all transgressions and rende…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    Nothing in what you wrote supported why Jechoniah should be in the lineage of Jesus, especially when God pulled the kingship authority from him and said he was to be remembered as childless (no matter how many kids he has while imprisoned). This would mean anyone born after him would not have rights to the throne of Judah; AND if his…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    Nothing in what you wrote supported why Jechoniah should be in the lineage of Jesus, especially when God pulled the kingship authority from him and his descendants and said he was to be remembered as childless (no matter how many kids he has while imprisoned). This would mean anyone born after him would not have rights to the throne of…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    The mental gymnastics performed to keep the lineage of Jesus from falling apart is amazing. Except Zerubbabel didn’t sit on David’s throne, he was the governor of Judah. Next!

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    @Carmel,

    You: WHEN WILL YOU GET IT INTO YOUR MIND, THAT THE OT. IS OBSOLETE?

    Me: Never!! God says his law is forever.

    If the OT is obsolete, why do you continually reference it; it makes no sense. If it’s obsolete, why are you quoting Jer 31 in this diatribe of nonsense you are spewing? You quote starting in verse 31 and still have no idea w…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    How do you come up with this stuff?!? Either the words written mean exactly what they say or they don’t; if they don’t what they say, then everything in the bible must be thought of as an interpretive literary work that can mean anything the reader wishes. I say the first option because my God wasn’t maliciously hiding anything or try…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You: THAT YOU ARE A STUPID PERSON WITH EVERY RESPECT!

    Me: Be thankful there are rules on this website and I respect my fellow man, whether we agree or not, to not drop to worse than childish levels because we disagree. In nothing you wrote did you substantiate your position; all you did was, as Paul, twist God’s words to mean what you w…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    The book of Hebrews is so corrupt it must be removed; anyone who uses it continues to push its corruption.

    Every letter Paul wrote is a lie, he admits to robbing the early church, twists God’s words to make them his own, hates the Jewish people, whined about all of Asia rejecting him (doesn’t Jesus say to Ephesus they did well in…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 4 months ago

    Hi DT,

    You: @Carmel,

    GOD WAS ALONE BEFORE CREATION

    you know this how? What about the angels?

    Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created heaven, and earth. 

    MAN WAS ALONE IN HIS CREATION

    was he, wasn’t God there too?

    Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth: and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man be…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    GOD WAS ALONE BEFORE CREATION — you know this how? What about the angels?

    MAN WAS ALONE IN HIS CREATION — was he, wasn’t God there too?

    GOD MADE A HELPER FOR THE MAN LIKE HIMSELF — because HE said it wasn’t good for man to be by himself, without a compatible mate.

    ANOTHER HUMAN BEING THE WOMAN — would be a mouse…

    OUT OF THE MAN…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    What is the point you are trying to get at?

    If God was alone before creation, then Jesus couldn’t possibly preexist. hmmmm!

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    @Carmel

    I have no idea what translation you’re using, but throw it away; it’s corrupt. Gen 2:18 in every translation I reference it says “I” will make him a helper – no “us.” This means God alone is going to do this. Besides, do you really believe the One who created light, time, celestial bodies, placed this planet at the right distance fr…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago

    Hi Desiretruth???

    You: @Carmel,
    You are one of those people
    who believes they are the most intelligent person in the room

    ME: IT IS YOUR TASK TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THE TRUTH, DO YOU KNOW HOW?

    I TELL YOU:

    BY SIMPLY IGNORING ALL YOUR BLAH, BLAH, AND BLAH, AND HUMBLY PRODUCE THE SCRIPTURE THAT IN YOUR LEVEL…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    You are one of those people who believes they are the most intelligent person in the room and then they open their mouth, in this case begin writing, only to prove they are the biggest fool in the room.

    You made the wild claim they were THREE “immaculate conceptions”, conceptions done without the combination of sperm and egg, and I am…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 7 months ago

    Hi Disertruth,

    You: @Carmel,

    So who are we talking Cain or Abel??

    Me: CAIN AND ABEL I’M AFRAID IF YOU REALLY ARE
    Desiretruth,
    AND WANT THE TRUTH

    You said Abel, but give scripture for Cain?!?!?!

    ME: IT IS THROUGH AND IN CONTRAST WITH CAIN THAT WE ARE ABLE TO BE AWARE OF THE TRUTH!

    Stop wasting my time; if you have a point, make it.

    I…[Read more]

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    @Carmel,

    So who are we talking Cain or Abel?? You said Abel, but give scripture for Cain?!?!?!

    Stop wasting my time; if you have a point, make it.

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    @Carmel,

    In other words, there is no scripture to back up what you claim and now you are deflecting. To ask me to provide you a scripture to refute your claim of Able’s “immaculate conception” is backwards. It’s okay for you to make wild comments without support, but everyone else must support what they say…understood. Hope your pedesta…[Read more]

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