carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 2 months ago
CRMEL…..YOUR ASSUMING IT UP TO US , BUT SCRIPTURE says ‘NO” MAN CAN COME UNTO CHRIST UNLESS THE FATHER DRAW HIM.
Gene,
FIRST! what is the process which GOD THE FATHER DRAW MAN UNTO CHRIST, SINCE MOST OF US ARE GOING DOWN TO HELL, IS HE NOT DOING HIS JOB RIGHT?
NOW!
It is clear enough from your last post that,YOU ABANDONED YOUR ARGUMENTS BOTH…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
.It is “NOT” clear that we must take the first step.
Gene,
Hereunder are FEW CLEAR scriptures OUT OF MANY MORE,regarding who must take the first step,
EITHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE!John4:40 And you will not come to me NEGATIVE STEP BY REFUSING TO GO TO JESUS that you may have life. THROUGH MYRIAD KINDS OF GRACES
John 6:35 35And Jesus said to the…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
.We who are lead by the SPIRIT OF GOD, ARE lead by it,
Gene,
Who are
WE
it leads us and teaches us to chose the will of GOD IN OUR LIVES, TO CHOSE THAT WHICH IS GOOD,
WHY THE MAJORITY ARE POURING DOWN TO HELL?
IS THE HOLY SPIRIT NOT DOING HIS JOB RIGHT?
God is both the author and finisher of our faith.
WHICH FAITH?
Since there are…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
You talk about “graces” plural, as if there are many types of grace. WHAT SCRIPTURE OR SCRIPTURES SAY THAT?
Gene,
DRB.
1 Corinthians 12 Now there are DIVERSITIES OF GRACES, but the same Spirit; CHRIST’S
As you can read Paul made it clear that there are vast kinds of graces!
please post where JESUS EVER SAID WE RECIEVE GRACE IF WE GIVE…
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
God’s grace is revealed in many ways.
Kerwin,
1 Corinthians 12 Now there are DIVERSITIES OF GRACES, but the same Spirit; CHRIST’S
As you can read Paul made it clear that there are vast kinds of graces!
Our trouble is the lack of interest to be aware HOW WE ACQUIRE THESE GRACES THROUGH OUR OWN WORKS, AND GENERAL BEHAVIOUR!
AS YOU SAI…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
…YOU HAVE PRESENTED THE APSOLUTE OPPISITE OF WHAT THE “GRACE” OF GOD IS. YOU ARE BASING YOUR SALVATION ON “SELF” PERFORMANCE.
Gene,
No!
WE RECEIVE GRACES IN RELATION TO OUR GENERAL BEHAVIOUR IN CHRIST! PURE JUSTICE!
It doesn’t mean that we SIMPLY keep our hands crossed, hang around doing nothing NOT EVEN OUR PART, and expecting God only t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Amen brother, being baptised in the name of JESUS, and recieving of the HOLY SPIRIT, promised is essential. It is all brought about by the GRACE OF GOD, JUST AS IT SAYS, “we are saved by grace and that not of ourselves, it is a gift of GOD”.
Gene,
The thing is THAT
MOST OF US REFUSE GRACES WHICH GOD THROUGH JESUS’PROCESS OF REDEMPTION, USED JUS…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
It has nothing to do with ‘our’ so-called “freewills”, it has to do with GOD THE Father reaveling who Christ jesus is, and what he accomplished by giving his life for a sacrifice for our sins, becaus NO MAN “CAN” COMEUNTO CHRIST , UNLESS THE FATNER DRAW HIM. The garments that cover us has nothing to do with “OUR” RIGHTIOUSNESS,<…
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
.But all clothing is purchased is it not?
Gene,
YES and how!
THE PRIZE is our own free will to reject entirely
THE LUST OF THE FLESH AND THE WORLD,
FOR THE SAKE OF CHRIST’S SPIRIT
WHICH is not possible for the majority!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Perhaps the Church is in the DATING stage of the relationship. If so, then there is no guarantee of a marriage until you are at the Wedding itself.
t8,
THE FACT that we have to PREPARE ourselves!
Through our own free will, WE MUST PURCHASE THE CLOTHING WHILE ON EARTH IN GOD’S TERMS:
The prize is the rejecting of the WORLD, FLESH, for the…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Yes we are betrothed to the Master
Nick and t8,
I’m afraid in GOD’S TERMS WE MUST BE ACTUALLY MARRIED!
INTEGRATED AS ONE
HUSBANDS!
In order to receive the BRIDE!
If not Married, WE WOULD BE THROWN OUT from THE WEDDING!
The actual state of a HUSBAND, married, INTEGRATED is the clothing of righteousness!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Perhaps the Church as an entity personifies “The Bride” and the individual people WITHIN the Church/Body personifies the “guest(s)”. I THINK that idea/theory/explanation might have already been touched upon here in an earlier post. But yeah, it CAN make more sense of scripture if one looks at it in that way; That those individuals (guests)…
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
i do not know if these are representive of the ten vergins or not, i just tie the word virgins,
Gene,
It is quite clear that you FOCUSSED on the title of VIRGINS!
But regarding this topic, which is the bride and also what’s related to it there are the titles of the
BRIDEGROOM,
WEDDING,
THE GUESTS, US,
THE VIRGIN, THE NEW JERUSALEM and,
THE G…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
I had previously questioned why scripture would liken us to guests of the wedding feast, which contradicts the role of a bride – I know no examples of a bride ever being a guest at her own wedding.
Grasshopper,
Yes with respect to your opinion!
But it couldn’t be that the reason that we are guests, in order to become the BRIDE?
Since we are…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Scripture says the 144,000 taken from the 12 tribes of ISRAEL, they are the virgins who have not been defiled with women.
Gene,
Please I would appreciate it if you were to EXPAND a bit more regarding the above, in respect of your conclusions THAT THEY COULD SOMEHOW BE IN CONNECTION WITH THE 10 VIRGINS WHOM JESUS MENTIONED!
Personally, Jesus’10…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Trinity and Woman in the forum Other Faiths 10 years, 3 months ago
find a prophet or disciple that is female in the bible. you don’t. all the titles have been given to the male. why is that?
Hi Princess,
HOW ABOUT THESE?
Isaiah 8:3 Then I made love to the prophetess, and she conceived …
Luke 2:36 There was also a prophet, Anna, the daughter of Penuel …
Nehemiah 6:14 Remember Tobiah and Sanballat, my G…[Read more]carmel posted a new activity comment 10 years, 3 months ago
So thank you Carmel, but I was just trying to prove a point because since that day I was hurting for you, but you answered so well without any malice and I admired that.
J42,
First regarding BOXING DAY! When I temporary lived in UK. They told that it originated from the fact that since on Christmas day, they open all their present boxes, and the…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
So thank you Carmel, but I was just trying to prove a point because since that day I was hurting for you, but you answered so well without any malice and I admired that.
J42,
First regarding BOXING DAY! When I temporary lived in UK. They told that it originated from the fact that since on Christmas day, they open all their present boxes, and…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
I do not celebrate Christmas, but still wish for you a very blessed day!
Grasshopper,
First, I APPRECIATE your prompt feed back!
Second, I celebrate Christmas but SPIRITUALLY ONLY!
Third, I also feel that it would be appropriate to make you aware, rather with a PECULIAR aspect regarding this scenario in particular!
So, to start with, if I…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The "Bride of Christ" is not the Church in the forum Scriptural Teachings 10 years, 3 months ago
Grasshopper
Is this showing the fruits of the spirit? How did you correct Carmel? Where did you show him he was going wrong?
What truth have you learn’t from the scriptures?J42,
First and foremost:
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND ALL!
Second, honestly speaking I never expected this exactly on Christmas day!
Greatly appreciated it!As you can r…[Read more]
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