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    Hi Desiretruth,

    Cont.

    I intervened and took the opportunity and replied to your post  to Nick, in order to maintain our discussion focused on 1Corinthians 15:3 hereunder:

    You: “To reject Paul is to reject his Master Jesus Christ”; so Paul saves too?!!?

    ME: Scriptures:
    2Corinthians 12:1 If I must glory (it is not expedient indeed):

    but I will…[Read more]

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    Hi Desiretruth,

    Cont.

    Post. #944095

    Me: WHAT CONVINCED YOU THAT PAUL REFERRED TO THE OLD TESTAMENT?

    You: The only SCRIPTURE available to them in the 1st century was the tanach, the Jewish writings that we today call the “old testament.”

    Me: Paul used the word “SCRIPTURE”.

    It is not enough proof that he was definitely referring…[Read more]

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    Hi Desiretruth,

    You: For the record, still waiting for the OT reference to I Cor 15:3-4

    ME: As  I mentioned in my last post, hereunder is the first post in order to initiate our discussion, in relation to 1Cor. 15:3-4, and I asked my first question.

    Post #944001  JULY 17, 2023

    You: ……What more can I say before you enlighten us with you v…[Read more]

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    Hi Desiretruth,

    You: As far as the rest of what you wrote, I didn’t waste my time because it’s to hard to follow

    (different font sizes,

    color changes,

    all caps,

    broken sentences,

    and none paragraph format).

    Grammar is your friend,

    Me: ARE WE STUDENTS SUBJECT TO GRAMMAR OR ELSE WE DON’T PASS THE EXAM?

    OR  CHATTING!

    DURING CHAT…[Read more]

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    H Desiretruth,

    You: You believe the OT is “OBSOLETE”, thus making the NT the only book worthy of study

    Me: Your reasoning doesn’t make sense at all!

    Don’t students study old respective literature, in order to acquire a degree?

    WE MUST STUDY THE OT NOT TO LIVE BY IT, BUT IN ORDER TO BE COMPARED WITH THE NEW, AND REVEAL THE TRUTH!

    HIDDEN IN…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick, I agree, for a person like you perhaps I’m afraid. For others like DT most probably it would be more to masticate I hope.

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    Hi Nick,

    You: Jesus is intentionally speaking in a confusing manner thru the use of parables so those who came to listen to him wouldn’t understand so they wouldn’t turn and have their sins forgiven. Tell me how you interpret this in a positive manner?!? In essence Jesus is hiding the Kingdom of God from the people and only the select chosen few…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    You: Your own spirit cannot recognize the Holy Spirit.

    You must be born again from above.

    Me: Who said I am not?

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ.

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    HI Nick,

    You:

    The Spirit of Christ which spoke through the Son was always one with God.

    WHERE IN SCRIPTURE WE CAN READ SUCH A DEFINITION?

    FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I’M AFRAID IT’S NOT QUITE THE TRUTH!

     

    Can you not hear the Spirit?.

    THAT’S IT!

    ALWAYS ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT IN ME!

    SO ASK THE SPIRIT IN YOU AND CLARIFY USING SCRIPTURE…[Read more]

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    Hi Desiretruth,

    You: Are you saying God can no longer forgive?!?

    Me: I am still waiting for your belief in relation to the afterlife 

    ACCORDING TO YOUR GOD OF THE OT!

    Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return to the earth, out of which thou wast taken: for dust thou art,
    and into dust thou shalt return.
    Thus…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    You: but do you not INTERPRET SCRIPTURE yourself and call this man a GODMAN?
    John 10:3o I and the Father are one.
    31The Jews then took up stones to stone him. 
    32Jesus answered them: Many good works I have shewed you from my Father; for which of these works do you stone me? 33 The Jews answered him: For a good work we stone thee not,…[Read more]

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    Hi Desiretruth,

    You: God was forgiving mankind without the need or help of a messiah figure.

    Me: THEN WHAT?

    You: God forgave without the need for “blood” since HE was looking for a truly repentant heart.

    Me: THEN WHAT?

    You: So the question still remains,

    what need does anyone have with Jesus?

    Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face sha…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick

    YOU: Hi Carmel,

    Corresponding to that Baptism now saves you- not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who is at the right hand of God, having gone into heaven, after angels and authorities and powers had been subjected to him. 1 Peter 3.24

    ”The God of o…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick

    Me: Nick,

    IS BAPTISM

    AN OFFICIAL DECLARATION
    THAT YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR REDEEMER?

    YES OR NO PLEASE!
    Mark 16:16 He that BELIEVES and is BAPTIZED, shall be saved:
    but he that believeth not shall be condemned. 

    You: Hi  Carmel,
    no.
    It s a “PLEA” to God for a clean conscience.

     

    IT IS EVIDENTLY CLEAR THAT
    TRUTH H…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    You: Hi Carmel,

    bewildering speculative dogma.

    Me: WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

    BE MORE SPECIFIC NOT ENIGMATIC!

    ARE YOU PREOCCUPIED TO BE CLEAR?

    READ AGAIN AND ANSWER PLEASE:

    You: Apparently

    OFFICIAL DECLARATIONS
    are important to Carmel.

    Ritualism,  not faith.

     

    IS BAPTISM

    AN OFFICIAL DECLARATION
    THAT YOU BELIEVE IN…[Read more]

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    Hi Carmel,

    You: It is very clear that Acts 10:38 is referring to the River Jordan.
    Start at verse 37:

    37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judæa,
    and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
    38 How God  anointed  Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power:

    Me: from your perspective ma…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    You: Apparently
    OFFICIAL DECLARATIONS
    are important to Carmel.

    Ritualism,  not faith.

    ANSWER Nick PLEASE:

    IS BAPTISM
    AN OFFICIAL DECLARATION
    THAT YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR REDEEMER?

    YES OR NO PLEASE!
    Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved:
    but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

    Now Satan…[Read more]

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    Hi Desiretruth,

    In reference to post #944977, one word is all you need and that is “zera”; I have been over this word before and is a reference to descendants, one who is procreated, something produced after it’s own kind. This is the term used in the OT to reference who the Messiah will be, the seed of David.

    In other words in the linea…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: Berean, Jesus preaches of his coming glory, teaching directly that it is glory unto the Son of Man and preaching ALSO that it was prepared since the creation of the world. 

    Just prior to his death we are not to believe he was asking God for the very glory he preached of? Absurd!!

    Me: Let’s read the scripture:

    Matthew 25:31 And…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    You: To. All……Jesus is indeed the “Sacrifice”, that “GOD GAVE” , to the world,  for the “PURPOSE”, of taking away the sins of the world.

     Not that Jesus himself took away the sins of the world himself,

     

    Me: Just read hereunder please:

    John 1:29 The next day, John saw Jesus coming to him, and he saith: Behold the Lamb of God,
    behol…[Read more]

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