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    Hi Berean,

    YOU: I am not sure I fully understand your question / assertion ….. The last day is not at the cross (on His death)but when Jesus returns ….When Jesus comes into his reign, he will bring his faithful children back to life forever and he will take them to Heaven with him.

    Berean that is only one occurrence related to the term “ON THE…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    Back to my post, I feel I was not quite clear in my question, so I repeat again:

    Now here comes what I am aiming to:

    WHEN WAS JESUS, LAST DAY ONE EARTH? Obvious on the cross!No?

    My question is  WHAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED ON JESUS’DEATH SINCE

    HE RAISED HIMSELF UP? AS HE SAID IN JOHN6, ALSO 

    ON HIS LAST DAY, ON EARTH, ON HIS DEA…[Read more]

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    Hi Lu,

    YOU: The ascension that Jesus speaks about when he says that he will raise himself up on the third day, IMO,  is this one:

    John 20:17

    Jesus said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    I believe That: The Father called the Son to rise AND the Saviour came forth from the grave by the life that was in Himself.

    ME: Before I Comment on your perception I want to make you aware of what Jesus said regarding His PARTICULAR raising up, and also through Him, in the same manner, OUR ONE RAISING UP!

    Read hereunder a scripture…[Read more]

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    Hi Gen,

    YOU: Carmel…..Again you take liberties to change some scriptures to meet your false teachings,

    ME:Gene PRODUCE AT LEAST ONE NOT JUST SAY SO PLEASE!

      your not taking into consideration all the scriptures that counterdict  your teachings. 

    AGAIN PRODUCE AT LEAST ONE SCRIPTURE  AND JUSTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE!

    Why not just take one thin…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: My sheep hear my voice,  why?,  because they have the Spirit of truth “in” them the same as Jesus did and that is why they can know the voice of the Spirit speaking in and through him. 

    Gene you are completely confused and lost in your CARNAL MENTALITY:

    Jesus sent the spirit of truth on Pentecost! Fifty days after

    HE DIED/GL…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    GODMAN……not one scripture called Jesus a Godman

    ME: There are many truths that scripture never clearly produced, but it’s there?

    That Jesus is MAN we all accept. NO? Though you don’t accept the fact that He is not of the world. Despite Jesus’ own words!

    That Jesus is God the majority of Christians accept. NO?

    That means that Jes…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: If Jesus was able to raise himself from the dead then he really never truly died.  Because scripture tell us that when a person dies their thoughts parish, the dead know nothing.

    Gene, you put God in the same basket of humans!

    Mark 10:27 And Jesus looking on them, saith: With men it is impossible; but not with God:

    for all…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    YOU: Hi Carmel

    REFLECT PLEASE:
    JESUS WAS BEGOTTEN FROM THE DEAD NO?
    JESUS RAISED HIMSELF UP NO?
    Me
    First Application : Hebrews 1
    Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
    For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten t…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    YOU: Hi Carmel

    REFLECT PLEASE:
    JESUS WAS BEGOTTEN FROM THE DEAD NO?
    JESUS RAISED HIMSELF UP NO?
    Me
    First Application : Hebrews 1
    Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
    For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten t…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    YOU: Edj

    Jesus did not begot himself
    It is the Father who begot him

    DON’T RUSH TO CONCLUSIONS!

    REFLECT PLEASE:

    JESUS WAS BEGOTTEN FROM THE DEAD NO?

    JESUS RAISED HIMSELF UP NO?

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Hope this helped Carmel,

    Gene read again what I asked you!

    ME: Yes Gene, but the truth is that God the Father HIMSELF never proclaimed that

    He is the ONLY TRUE GOD!

    Gene, it would be very interesting if you were to explain first

    WHY HE NEVER PROCLAIMED HIMSELF SO,( I mean TRUE)

    I repeat again:

    Gene, God the Father could…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: This is not to even mention the many places that GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF SAID ,

    ” I AM GOD, and there is “NO” other GOD besides ME.  There is about ten places where God the Father said that in scripture. 

    ME: Yes Gene, but the truth is that God the Father HIMSELF never proclaimed that

    He is the ONLY TRUE GOD!

    Gene, it would be…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    First and foremost:

    Thank you for the lesson regarding the spirit???

    YOU: Danny ,

    seeing it was God the Father who sent him,

     So who is the “TRUE” SAVIOR OF THE WORLD? 

    It was “God” the Father who sent Jesus, Jesus never sent himself did he?

    Gene your long post is not only useless but it doesn’t make sense, in relation to

    [Read more]

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    He Gene,

    YOU: Danny , seeing it was God the Father who sent him,  So who is the “TRUE” SAVIOR OF THE WORLD? 

    It was “God” the Father who sent Jesus, Jesus never sent himself did he?

    Gene, according to your own words, which proceed from your heart are full of

    fire for the truth!

    Here comes pure truth for you, always in relation to what truth…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Berean……Yes it is God almighty, the “only” true God,  according to the “man” Jesus.

    Gene, answer

    WHY GOD THE FATHER WAS NOT IN THE POSITION TO PROCLAIM HIMSELF

    throughout scripture

    AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD???

    WHY GOD THE FATHER SIMPLY RELIED on

    A MERE MAN JESUS???

    THE TRUE GOD ON EARTH 1John5:20

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

     

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Carmel……David answered your question ,  THE LORD  “YAHOVAH ”  his God and our God , delivered him, just as he delivered him from the lion and the bear. 

    Gene, I’ afraid you simply ignored my post and my question!

    My question was

    WHO KILLED GOLIATH? Now with the same argument:

    HERE ANOTHER QUESTION THEN:
    WHO KILLED ABEL?[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: It was “God” the Father who sent Jesus, Jesus never sent himself did he?

    ME: Hebrews 7:27 Who needeth not daily (as the other priests) to offer sacrifices first for his own sins, and then for the people’s:

    for this he did once,
    in offering himself. 
     

    Hebrews 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who by the Holy Ghost
    o…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Danny , seeing it was God the Father who sent him,  So who is the “TRUE” SAVIOR OF THE WORLD? 

    Gene read and answer please!

    Samuel 17:32 And when he was brought to him, he said to him:

    Let not any man’s heart be dismayed in him: I thy servant will go, and will fight against the Philistine.

    33And Saul said to David: Thou art n…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    YOU:Carmel,

    Jesus did pre-exist his flesh as a spirit without flesh,

    ME: Jesus did pre-exit AD INTRA in the oneness of God eternally as a spirit before

    THE BEGINNING! Then

    Jesus did pre-exist both as spirit

    in the same eternal state AD INTRA in the oneness of God,

    and AD EXTRA as

    THE BEGINNING in

    Jesus Christ

    John 1:1IN the…[Read more]

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