Hi Mike,

YOU: Carmel, why could Stephen see the person of Jesus, but not the person of God?  And doesn’t that mean that the person of Jesus is not the person of God?

ME: First and foremost Scripture never says that Stephen
saw only the person of Jesus and not the person of God.
Scripture EMPHATICALLY says that Stephen saw
 (A) THE GLORY OF GOD…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel…..And you also change the “image” of God into the “image” of a corruptible man,  the Son of man, Jesus Christ.

Who himself said over 80 times he was a “son of man”.

ME: Gene, the term Son of Man does not confirm that Jesus is not divine. 

THE FACT THAT JESUS CALLED HIMSELF SO IS ENOUGH PROOF THAT HE WAS NOT …[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: The point I made to Berean was that

Stephen was able to see Jesus, but not God. 

Repeat those words to yourself:  Stephen could see Jesus, but not God.  Jesus, but not God.  Jesus, but not God.

Carmel, why could Stephen see the person of Jesus, but not the person of God?  And doesn’t that mean that the person of Jesus is not th…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU:Carmel , AND ‘YOU” SAY “MIRE” man?,   Seems our scriptures have a different view then you do abut mankind.

ME: NOW ONCE WE SETTLED WHO IN ACTUAL FACT CALLED JESUS A MERE MAN, HEREUNDER IS ARE SCRIPTURES, LIKE WHICH THERE ARE MANY MORE OTHERS, WHICH GIVES YOU THE CLEAREST STATE OF MANKIND, NOT WHEN GOD CREATED 
ADAM IN HIS IMAG…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: If you want me to go to another thread to ask it to you,

I will,

please tell me which one you want me to use.

Again in the above, you are trying to  present yourself AN HONEST SINCERE MAN, but the truth is Gene, that in this thread no one can trace the respective posts between us regarding my first question to you, in order to…[Read more]

Hi Gene,
YOU: Answer my question or we go no further,  I answered yours.
ME: first and foremost:

YOU DIDN’T ANSWER MY QUESTION AT ALL Gene. 

Second, THAT QUESTION IS IN THE OTHER TOPIC OK? BUT SINCE TO QUENCH YOUR THIRST AND PRESENT YOURSELF 
A HERO  
YOU ASKED ME IN THIS TOPIC! 

I WILL ASK YOU AGAIN: BUT FIRST READ AGAIN YOUR OWN WORDS

FULL O…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Didn’t Jesus clearly say
“the son of man”. Can do “nothing” of himself”?  
Do you understand that, and why he said it?

ME: John 16:7 But I tell you the truth: it is expedient to you that I go: for if I go not, the Paraclete will not come to you; but if I go,
I will send him to you.
Gene, ANSWER: DID JESUS IN THE ABOVE SEND T…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel,  yea , but for now lets talk about the ” Son of man”, that is sitting there ok?

ME: WHAT DO YOU MEAN:

FOR NOW, LET’S TALK ABOUT THE SON OF MAN?

Gene, UNLESS YOU, FIRST ANSWER MY QUESTION, I WILL NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE. FINE?

never mind YES or NO!

SO

ANSWER: WHO DWELLS IN THE TEMPLE? 
I MEAN WHO IS “HIM” that Jesu…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

YOU: YHVH had Mary become pregnant with her own husband’s seed

ME: The above is not YOUR IMAGINATION INSERTED IN THE PASSAGES,

EXPECTING  GOD TO USE THE EGG OF MARY AND THE SPERM OF JOSEPH IN ORDER TO HAVE HIS SON, I MEAN:

BOTH THE SON OF GOD and THE SON OF MAN.

DIDN’T GOD CREATE THE FIRST ADAM OUT OF MUD?

John 8:42Jesus th…[Read more]

Hi jodi,

YOU: Hi Carmel,

Don’t you realize that the teachers to whom Jesus was with in the temple would have said that they were about their Father’s business TOO. They were ALL about THEIR Father YHVH’s business.

Jodi FIRST AND FOREMOST

NOT MERE TEACHERS BUT
DOCTORS
Now the above is a clear confirmation from you that

JESUS WAS ANOINT…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Carmel…..I am specific,  again, what man is “now” sitting in the “temple” of God , Sitting at the right hand of God, and being displayed as a ” GOD”?

ME: IN THE ABOVE Gene, YOU ARE REFERRING TO JESUS THE SON OF MAN!

YOU FORGOT THAT JESUS SAID THAT SCRIPTURE! READ AGAIN:

Matthew 23:2 And whosoever shall swear by temple,
sweareth by it,[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

YOU: When he was 12 years old he brought sorrow unto his parents when they believed he was traveling with them but instead he stayed behind where they went back and found him in the temple with teachers where he said
he was about his Father’s business.
ME: THE ABOVE DECLARATION FROM A BOY OF 12,   ISN’T ENOUGH FOR YOU TO CONVINCE YOU…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

YOU: Hi Lu and Berean,

Can we honestly say that a God/Man was like one of us in every way? Hebrews 2:17

Danny there ‘s an enormous difference between the word “LIKE” and the word “AUTHENTIC”

JESUS WAS IN ALL THINGS “LIKE” HIS BRETHREN!

NOW JESUS, BY HIS RESURRECTION, MADE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE

ALL AUTHENTIC BROTHERS IN HIM,

ALL…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU:Carmel…..the proof is how you add word , thoughts, and even change the meanings to our text.

ME: Gene unless you are specific and produce the particulars, HOW ON EARTH AM I GOING TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO, NEVER MIND ANSWERING YOU SINCE ACCORDING TO YOU, THERE ARE SO MANY ALTERATIONS 

YOU: Anyone with any true un…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU:Carmel…..I just though of something you ask,  Good,  lets slow this down a bit and discuss it.

ME: Read this scripture FIRST:

Matthew 23:2 And whosoever shall swear by temple,

sweareth by it,

and by him that dwelleth in it:

YOU:I say,  “the man” Jesus Christ is now sitting,  In the “temple ”  of God.
What say you?<…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: God has begotten many Son of his,  ” know you not that “NOW” you are the Son’s of God ” ? 

Gene, ARE YOU IN THE POSITION TO TELL US ON HEAVENNET

“HOW”  THE HUMAN RACE, APART FROM THE JEWS,  FROM CHILDREN OF SATAN BECAME CHILDREN OF GOD?

1Peter 2 Who in time past WERE NOT A PEOPLE: but are now THE PEOPLE OF GOD. Who had not obtai…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel….. Sorry to say this,  but, I have never seen anyone twist up our scriptures more then you are.

ME: THE ABOVE Gene, IS YOUR FIRST ACCUSATION AGAINST ME, WITHOUT ANY SPECIFIC PROOF.

YOU: That to me is sad,  Nearly everything you quote to me and others and what you quoted to Mike is a twisted up rendition of someone who can…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: So what does it tell us that Stephen was able to see the person of Jesus, but NOT the person of God?

ME: NO MIKE THIS IS ONLY YOUR PERCEPTION I’M AFRAID!

Read what Stephen, NOT ONLY SAW but alsoWHAT HE DISTINGUISHED FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME!

Actas 7:55But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looking up steadfastly to heaven,
saw the…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel,  Jesus said the God was the “ONLY” true GOD”,  NOT ME, I just believe him, obviously you don’t honestly believe him. Trying to twist what i say is exactly wha you do with what Jesus And so many other scripture also say. 

ME: NOW WITH YOUR OWN MOUTH Gene

YOU SIMPLY CONFIRMED THAT
NO JESUS  NO THE ONLY TRUE GOD![Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel…… I simply quote what is clearly written in our bible, and you call that  Carnal,

ME: PURE LIES

YOU: while you add your own unbiblical interpretations and have the gall to say i am carnal minded, what a joke that is.

PROVE IT  Gene please for God’s sake! 

Now , you even denying Jesus’ humanity,

AGAIN PURE LIES! HOW ON E…[Read more]