carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: I believe Exactly as Jesus said, ‘the son of man (Jesus ) could do “nothing of himself”, but the Father who is “in” him done the works”,
ME: What does JESUS CONFIRM by that statement?
THAT THE FATHER COULD DO NOTHING ALL BY HIMSELF!
John 16:15 All things whatsoever the Father hath,
are mine.
Therefore I said, that he shall rece…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
HI Gene,
YOU: You tell us Jesus preexisted, but as what, you don’t know, nor does your fellow teachers the Trinitarians know either.
Read, but for a change don’t let your carnal-minded reasoning overrules you!
Colossians `1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God,….
God Gene, IS AN “INVISIBLE” SPIRIT to the extent that not even the spi…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: when Almighty God himself comes and Jesus offers up his Kingdom to him, and
becomes subject to him.
ME: FINALLY Gene, YOU JUST CONFIRMED THAT
JESUS CHRIST RIGHT NOW IS SUBJECT TO NO ONE!
Peace and love in Jesus Christcarmel replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
HI Gadam,could have ben born
YOU: I am arguing that the logics of Jesus the supposed Messiah being involved in God’s creation is not supported by the Hebrew Bible.
ME: THE ABOVE IS ONLY YOUR POOR CONCLUSION SIMPLY AS YOU ONLY DISCERN THE HEBREW BIBLE FROM ONE PERSPECTIVE, WHICH IS CARNAL, AND NOTHING SPIRITUAL. DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE H…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU:He wanted to convince his Jewish audience that Jesus was the Messiah but the chapter 1 proved other than that. His Gospel became the source of claiming Jesus’ divinity.
No Jew or Hebrew will agree with this writer’s views on Messiah that he would be involved in God’s creation and would be called divine.
This is the problem with…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: I find much discrepancy than harmony between Hebrew scriptures and NT writings.
ME: Only because you focus on the carnal side of it and ignore completely the spiritual side of it.
The fact that you don’t accept that “THE WORD” spoken of God is Jesus’ spirit, the Son of Man, by which spirit God created all, and sustains…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU:
Proclaimer……Jesus Christ did not preexist, his birth on this earth. He was prophesied to come into his existence before his actual birth, but he didn’t exist , till the prophesy happened, when he came into his “ONLY” existence he ever had.
You tell us Jesus preexisted, but as what, you don’t know, nor does your fellow teachers…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Christian writers Misquoting Texts – What does Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 9 months ago
To prove the virgin birth, Matthew incorrectly quotes the prophet Isaiah and states, “Behold a virgin shall be with child and shall bear a son and they shall call His name Immanuel.” But Isaiah actually wrote, “Behold the young woman is with a child and shall bear a son and she will call His name Immanuel.”
ME: Ted this caption of
Alma…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: Please share something new on the topic “Satan”
Here is something definitely new Ezekiel 44:1 hereunder, but I’m afraid first, one must distinguish who Satan is, and also what this scripture is telling us regarding Satan.
Have a go as I am only good for imaginations, in the same time I make room for you instead so you can gi…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: The scene changes. In the year 30 by our reckoning a young Jew dies in Jerusalem – condemned on the authority of the Roman emperor, crying aloud in the agonizing death of a criminal on the cross. If we follow the account in the Second Gospel, he dies with a feeling of having been
abandoned by God, his God.
ME: What is the re…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The most high god in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: If Jesus Never Called Himself God, How Did He Become One?
ME: NO Gadam, as long as one read scriptures CARNALLY, LITERALLY AND WITHOUT CHEWING THE WORDS, REMAINS NOT ONLY BLIND OF THE TRUTH BUT ALSO CONDEMNED BY OWNS WORDS!
Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: So you nullify the Hebrew Bible
John 5:39Search the scriptures, for you think in them to have life everlasting; and
the same are they that give testimony of me.
40And you will not come to me that you may have life.
ME: Gadam, Jesus in the above scriptures confirmed that the Hebrew bible was of no use for the Jews SINCE THEY…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: But I am not able to find this Godman in the Hebrew Bible
ME: YOU WILL NEVER SEE HIM, since you are more carnally minded like all the hebrews of the OT. WITH EVERY RESPECT,
you: and also the idea of souls being received in Heaven led by Jesus as quoted by you.
These are all Christian imaginations and ideas which are not…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: The cosmos is tom between light and darkness, good and evil, spirit and matter, soul and body, the new age and the old age,
Not quite the truth I’m afraid.
Jesus on His death on the cross justified Himself the truth, and eternal life, and immediately from that moment of His death on the cross, while He was dead on the cross, He…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi all and Gadam,
YOU: The third celestial adversary of the Hebrew Bible is found in Zechariah 3:1-2, and here he reprises the role of “the accuser” or prosecuting attorney of Job. This passage recounts the vision of Joshua who sees himself standing before the heavenly court to be judged on his ability to serve as the High Priest of Jer…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: It may be about the virtue of wisdom only, or
it may be about the virtue of wisdom and Jesus. But the context will not allow this text to be about Jesus alone.
Yes, Gadam,
Ezekiel 28:12 And say to him: Thus saith the Lord God:
Thou wast the seal of resemblance, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
The above scripture is…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 9 months ago
1 Corinthians 15:27
YOU: Now read your passage again with the discernment Paul showed here…
For he “has put everything under his feet.”Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself,……
The above scripture Mike has nothing to do with “ALL THINGS JESUS RIGHT NOW POSSESSES” t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 9 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: It is scriptural that Jesus is our brother.
It is scriptural that God is our Father.
It is NOT scriptural that God is our brother.
Nor is it scriptural that God is BOTH our Father AND our brother.
ME: Mike PHYSICALLY SPEAKING God is not our father!
THE PURE FACT THAT WE DIE.
HE IS OUR FATHER IN RELATION TO OUR SO…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Preexistence in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 9 months ago
HI, Gadam,
ME: Gadam, the Hebrew Bible was written FOR THE CARNAL MINDED PEOPLE, They were ALL SPIRITUALLY DEAD. Moses’ law was PRECISELY for this kind of people, in order to introduce them and prepare them for the spiritual life yet to be introduced by
JESUS, IN HIMSELF and HIS FATHER’S GOSPEL
NOW FROM THEN ON THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING, AS<…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 9 months ago
YOU:Carmel, is it said in scripture that anyone will become a BROTHER of God?
John 20:17 Jesus saith to her: Do not touch me, for I am not yet ASCENDED TO my Father.
But go to my brethren, and say to them:
ME: Mike, In the above, JESUS, the second Adam, THE MAN BORN AGAIN FROM THE DEAD, SPIRITUALLY DEAD SOULS, asserted that the entire human…[Read more]
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