carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: God’s firstborn Son has exactly the amount of power and authority that his and our
God grants him.
ME: NO MIKE,
NOT QUITE PRECISE
GOD THE FATHER, EVEN BEFORE JESUS’ PASSION,
GRANTED (not grants) JESUS THE ENTIRE POWER OF THE DEITY!
John13:3 Knowing that the Father
HAD GIVEN HIM (even before the world was) all things into…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Is it scriptural that God did miracles through His holy servant Jesus? Is it scriptural that God has done miracles through many of His other servants throughout the Bible?
YOU: Carmel: Again Mike, NOT QUITE PRECISE…
ME: YOU NEVER ASKED THE ABOVE QUESTION BEFORE and I NEVER ANSWERED IT, Mike.
WHAT IS THE REASON THEN THAT YOU…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: When Matthew says that the Holy Family taking refuge in Egypt was the fulfillment of Hosea 1:1, “Out of Egypt have I called my son,” quoted in Matthew 2:15,
he knew darn well that this was not what the prophet Hosea had in mind.
No, as any fool can see,
Hosea chapter 11 is all about the Exodus of Israel,
God’s beloved child,
M…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: God can do similar and even greater miracles through any one of us.
Again Mike, NOT QUITE PRECISE:
Mark 6:4 And Jesus said to them: A prophet is not without honor, but in his own country, and in his own house, and among his own kindred.
5And he could not do any miracles there,
only that he cured a few that were sick, laying his…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Carmel: YOU Gene, AS SOON AS YOU HAVE FAITH AS A GRAIN OF A MUSTARD SEED YOU COULD PERFORM MIRACLES EVEN GREATER THAN JESUS DID!
Sounds like you’re making Gene’s argument for him.
ME: Yes Mike, “SOUNDS”
JESUS BECAME GODMAN ON HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS AFTER GOD THE FATHER LEFT HIM! SIMPLY AS GOD THE FATHER GAVE
ALLPOWERS TO JESU…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: please show how “God spoke ” any differently, through the prophets, then he Spoke “through” the man Jesus? A Son.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, Gene,
SCRIPTURES PLEASE, NOT YOUR OWN CORRUPTED VERSION. Read
Hebrews 1:1God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners,
spoke in times past to the fathers
BY THE PROPHETS,last of all, [Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Evolution of Satan – From Hebrew Satan to Christian Devil? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: Does Hebrew Bible talk about the fall of so called Satan? A Christian view..
Job 6 Now on a certain day when the sons of God came to stand before the Lord, Satan also was present among them. 7And the Lord said to him: Whence comest thou ? And he answered and said:
I have gone round about the earth, and walked through it. 8And…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: God who is Spirit has to give a person the “POWER” to do Miracles,
Matthew 17:16 Lord, have pity on my son, for he is a lunatic, and suffereth much: for he falleth often into the fire, and often into the water.
16And I brought him to thy disciples, and they could not cure him.
17Then Jesus answered and said: O unbeli…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU:
Mike……you say Jesus is a Spirit, but Jesus said clearly he was not a Spirit. “Far a spirit has not flesh and bone as you see I have’. , that was said “after” his resurrection.
Gene, WITH EVERY RESPECT, YOU, A CARNAL MINDED PERSON,
WILL NEVER SEE THE TRUTH REGARDING
THE SPIRITUAL TASK OF GOD ON EARTH IN
JESUS CHRIST:[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, because he did these things on the sabbath. 17But Jesus answered them: My Father worketh until now; and I work.
Hi Gene,
Again you show how much you don’t “really” believe what Jesus himself said. You say he was the one who created everything that exists, but he said this, “the son of man” can do “NOTHI…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Jesus is a god because he is one of God’s spirit sons.
All of God’s spirit sons are gods.
Jesus is the first one that God brought forth into existence.
Mike, I’m afraid your conclusions are not quite right!
There are endless God’s spirit Sons! AD EXTRA
BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD’S UNIQUE SPIRIT SON AD INTRA!
JESUS CHRIST…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic in the forum carmel 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: Berean……yes God’s word was indeed with God, just us as your word is with you. You can’t separate yourself from your words,
neither can God either!
Mark 10:27 And Jesus looking on them, saith: With men it is impossible; but not with God:
for all things are possible with God.Isaiah 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts:<…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic in the forum carmel 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: Many here say they believe him, but lie, because if they “truly” believed him,
then they would believe what he said right’?
ME: Enjoy Gene, the truth:18Hereupon therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he did not only break the sabbath, but also said God was his Father,
making himself equal to God.[Read more]carmel replied to the topic in the forum carmel 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Danny,
YOU: Do you believe that Jesus is Almighty God or a lesser God?
ME: Scripture:
John 13:3 Knowing that the Father had given him ALL THINGS into his hands and that
he came from God, and goeth to God;
JESUS “THE WORD” SPOKEN OF GOD, LEFT THE FATHER AS A SPIRIT, AND RETURNED TO THE FATHER GLORIFIED ONE SUBSTANCEBOTH SPIRIT, GODLY AND…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: I am not limiting to Hebrew Bible alone in fact I am searching all religions.
And I am comparing the NT with its original source Hebrew Bible.
ME: Unless you change your carnal-minded mentality, NOTHING OF GOD, which is dominant in the OT.
You will neither see nor understand God’s truth!
A MYSTERIOUS SPIRIT, HIDDEN AND…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: Later in the story Judas, overwhelmed by guilt, flings the money back at the priests and then commits suicide (Matt 27:3–5). When the priests use the money to buy some land, Matthew informs us that this fulfills a prophecy of Jeremiah about thirty pieces of silver (Matt 27:6–10). The prophecy in question is actually from Zec…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Forbidden Chapter in the Tanakh in the forum Prophecy 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: They made big mess of Jesus the supposed Messiah into a preexisting godly being who was supposed to be involved in God’s creation in the beginning and he is the giver of life and eternal life which are not supported in the Hebrew Bible.
With every respect to you, Adam,
I’M AFRAID YOU ARE NOT IN THE POSITION NEITHER TO DISC…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
HI Gene,
YOU:Carmel……Read what Irenaeus said in CA 185 AD. …..because that is exactly the way I believe. Jesus was and is not a God of any kind. He did not preexist his existence on this earth either.
ME: Read, AGAIN THE SCRIPTURE THAT I POSTED, and IGNORE ALL ELSE!
AND I REPEAT
BUT for a change don’t let your carnal-minded reasoning…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
HI Gene,
YOU:Carmel……Read what Irenaeus said in CA 185 AD. …..because that is exactly the way I believe. Jesus was and is not a God of any kind. He did not preexist his existence on this earth either.
ME: Read, AGAIN THE SCRIPTURE THAT I POSTED, and IGNORE ALL ELSE!
<h2>AND I REPEAT </h2>
<h2>BUT for a change don’t let your carnal-min…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Was Jesus Jewish Messiah – What does the Hebrew Bible really say? in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 3 years, 8 months ago
Hi Gadam,
YOU: Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in ancient years.
Of course Jerusalem and Judah have not existed since the “days of eternity”!! Thus the translation must follow the logic.
ME: What if the names JUDAH and JERUSALEM are used
METAPHORICALLY?
That would be a c…[Read more]
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