carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU; “Now if the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the Grave be dwell in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the grave will also quicken your mortal “BODY”, by the Spirit that dwells “in” you.
Matthew 27:50And Jesus again crying with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51And behold the veil of the temple was rent in two from the t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
Okay Carmel, I just asked Jesus in his own name if he is God – or the holy servant of God. Jesus told me to read the scriptures, where it’s abundantly clear that he can’t very well BE his and our God if he is the son, servant, prophet, spokesman, priest, messiah, holy one, angel, first creation, and sacrificial lamb OF his and our God.…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: GOD IS BIGGER THAN THE SON…
Two persons. Only one of them is THE God. The other is THE God’s holy servant, Jesus.
Mike, YOU ARE BRILLIANT! JUST MESSING WITH YOU!
Now just read what your human reasoning says:
WHEN WE SAY:
A SKYSCRAPER IS BIGGER THAN A HOUSE!
WE WOULD KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT!
WHEN WE SAY:
THE ATLAN…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Carmel, post #872811 is the most brilliant post you’ve ever made here! (just messing with you)
What do you expect from a person still living on milk!
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike.
YOU: …you wouldn’t be able to just take my word for it if I told you that the things I’m trying to show you came via revelation from God, right?
ME: YOUR OWN PREACHING WOULD JUSTIFY WHETHER IT IS A REVELATION OR NOT!
ME: Let’s start from scratch:<…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: Then you tell me that you know you have been given truth from Jesus because Jesus is the one you asked for that truth, not the devil.
Forgive me for not being convinced –
especially since we were forewarned that
Satan can masquerade as an angel of light.
First and foremost read this verse again in a different versionAnd no wo…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
ME John 14:1 Read, discern and practice
THE ONLY TRUTH! JESUS!!!
John14:1 LET not your heart be troubled. You believe in God, believe also in ME.
YOU: You quoted a scripture where Jesus identified himself as someone other than God, Carmel. Why don’t you believe your Lord when he himself tells you that he is someone other than God…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Adam,
YOU: Messiah ‘Coming down from above is something mythological creation of the NT writers which is foreign to Hebrew Bible.
ME: may I ask you a rather odd question please, it could seem out of the contest, but my intention is to expand on it and determine some vital truth. This is my question:
FROM THE HEBREW BIBLE POINT OF VIEW, IS…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
HI Gene,
YOU: Carmel……So in your theology , the only way to God is from Jesus right?,
but Jesus said , “no man could come to him except God “draw him”.
Seems you have a contradiction of who moves on us first.
ME: FIRST AND FOREMOST YOU MUST LEARN SOMETHING REGARDING
THE PERFECT HARMONY BETWEEN
THE FATHER AND THE SON! JUST READ AND ACCE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: How can I know for sure that you were given spiritual knowledge from above that surpasses your (an my) human reasoning? I can’t very well just take your word for it, since I can’t verify such a thing, right?
ME: Excellent Mike!
Let’s analyze your human reasoning, and your own words would assert the truth without your awaren…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
Carmel: 37As the Lord hath been with my lord the king,
so be he with Solomon, and make his throne higher than the throne of my lord king David.
Mike, JESUS RIGHT NOW IS THE HIGHEST, HIGHER THAN GOD ALMIGHTY…
YOU: Nonsense. None could be higher than the Most High God of gods.
SO ACCORDING TO YOU, I AM TELLING A LIE NO?[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Mike: The One who is in a position to PUT all things under the other one is the One who is the most powerful.
Carmel: the above is only human reasoning!
YOU: As opposed to what? Do you possess some sort of non-human reasoning capabilities of which we are not aware?
AND HOW! ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO DISCUSS THE TRUTH OF JESUS OF WHICH IT’S N…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: We all came from heaven , yes all humanity has.
ME: You are completely lost , Gene, and ignoring completely
PURE CLEAR SCRIPTUR! Read;
John 8:23 And he said to them:
You are from beneath,
I am from above.
You are of this world,
I am not of this world.
Peace and love in Jesus Christcarmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: What your not understanding is Satan wants you to move Jesus away from the rest of mankind, he want’s us all to think Jesus is different then we are, exactly as you and others here are doing. why?,
because he does not want you to believe your potential
is exactly as Jesus’ is?
Gene, HERE IS SCRIPTURE:
John 15: 1 I AM the tr…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
1 Cor 15:27… Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
The One who is in a position to PUT all things under the other one is
the One who is the most powerful.
ME: PERFECT Mike! FROM A HUMAN’S POINT OF VIEW!
The other one will never have as…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: As far as what is thine are mine , that is also simple “ALL things are God the Fathers, and he made them for US, the future heirs of them, just the same as Jesus, or haven’t you ever read “we ARE “JOINT” HEIRS WITH Jesus Christ.” And what Heb2 says. . God the father gives everything on this earth for all of mankind, even…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Gene,
YOU: Carmel……very simple , they were “messengers” of God, both Jesus and Paul were. Human messengers. Not angelic beings, as you falsely assume.
t seems to me IT’S NOT SIMPLE AT ALL SINCE YOU DID’T UNDERSTAND WHAT PAUL SAID AND MEANT!
READ AGAIN:
Galatians 4:12 Be ye as I, because I also am as you: brethren, I beseech you: y…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mr.Gene,
YOU:Jesus is not a God,
nor a Angelic being,
nor is he a “spirit being, no more the we are.” ,ME:SCRIPTURE:
Galatians 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected;
but received me as an angel of God,
even as Christ Jesus.
Answer Gene please:
WHAT IS CHRIST IN THE ABOVE SCRIPTURE?
Peace and…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mr.Gene,
YOU:Jesus is not a God, nor a Angelic being, nor is he a “spirit being, no more the we are.” ,
there is not a single text that say Jesus is now a spirit being, of any kind,
but God is SPIRIT ,
and Jesus is not,
Just as Jesus himself “clearly” said.Read what Jesus Himself CLEARLY said:
John17:10 And all my things are t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 years, 7 months ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: What I said is 100% precise…
1 Cor 15:27… Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
The One who is in a position to PUT all things under the other one is the One who is the most powerful.
ME: the above is only human reasoning!…[Read more]
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