HI, Berean,

Thank you!

Honestly speaking, I posted only half of what I wrote, as I added a part that was dedicated to the different perceptions among the scholars of Revelation. Hereunder are two different versions of Rev. 2:4

ESV: But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had AT FIRST.

NAS: But I have this against you,…[Read more]

HI, Praclaimer,

Thank you!

Honestly speaking, I posted only half of what I wrote, as I added a part that was dedicated to the different perceptions among the scholars of Revelation. Hereunder are two different versions of Rev. 2:4

ESV: But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had AT FIRST.

NAS: But I have this against…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel……I see you still like to insert your own words into scriptures,

 But you never really answer anything asked  of you,

ME: First and foremost Gene, go back and read my post AGAIN and answer the

TWO QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU PLEASE.

 You: even a simple thing as the “who is your “FIRST LOVE”.

 is it Jesus Christ or God the Fa…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Berean……you still avoided the question,

 it was the Father that so loved us that “HE” , gave “HIS” SON ,

nowhere does it say the Son loved us or the world so much he,  the Son gave his only Soul for us,  In fact Jesus ask God the Father to take his dying command away from him.

 So it wasn’t because of Jesus’ great love…[Read more]

Carmel, now let’s do the same with Rev 4 and 5…

Rev 4:2…  At once I was in the Spirit, and I saw a throne standing in heaven, with someone seated on it.

Notice there is only one person on that throne – not three.

John1:1IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God. 
2The same was in the beginning with God.[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: And if you want to say that

the Holy Spirit is a member of the Godhead who spoke through it, then
I can claim that Moses, the vision, and David are members of the Godhead who spoke through them.
ME: WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM A PERSON WHO PUTS GOD IN THE SAME BASKET OF HUMANS IN YOUR CASE 
MOSES, THE VISION, and DAVID! 
Mike, WHEN G…[Read more]

Carmel:  THE FATHER WAS NOT IN THE POSITION TO CREATE ALL BY HIMSELF IN RELATION TO HUMAN REASONING!

EXCEPT    IN/BY/FOR JESUS!

More nonsense.  As if God was somehow UNABLE to create things all by Himself. 

ME: When will you get it into your mind and stop putting God in the same basket as humans: Read:
Isaiah 55:11 For my thoughts are not y…[Read more]

Mike:  When the believers heard this, they lifted up their voices to God with one accord. “Sovereign Lord,” they said,

“You made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them…
 ER

Carmel: Mike unless you are in the position to specify the process of creation, the above is of no use!

What?  Are you saying that unless I know exactl…[Read more]

Hi Gadam,

You: Note: “When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.”

ME: explain  please to me HOW ISRAEL NEVER BORN, IS CALLED IN THE ABOVE, ACCORDING TO YOU:

A CHILD?

NOW, AS WE ALL KNOW ISRAEL IS ONLY A SPIRITUAL NAME ESTABLISHED ENIGMATICALLY, EITHER BY SATAN, THE WRESTLER, OR BY GOD!

Genesis 32:24 He rema…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

ME: WELL SAID Gene, THIS TIME FOR A CHANGE!

YOU: Proclaimer…… God ‘s prophesied word became TRUE ,
it was the flesh man Jesus Christ.
ME: John1:1 IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD, AND 
THE WORD WAS GOD!
John 1:14 AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH
, and dwelt among us, (and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: Not at all.  I’m telling you that if the dispute is between Architect John and Lawyer Jim, the mediator cannot be EITHER Architect John OR Lawyer Jim.  A mediator cannot be one of the parties he mediates between.

In the case we’re discussing, one of the parties is “God”.  Therefore Jesus, as mediator cannot be “God”.[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: Carmel, these are excerpts from the prayer of the Apostles in Acts 4…

When the believers heard this, they lifted up their voices to God with one accord. “Sovereign Lord,” they said,

“You made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them…

ME: Mike unless you are in the position to specify the process of creation,…[Read more]

Carmel,

It was Jesus body that was resurrected on resurrection day,

His spirit was in the hands of the Father at the time of the last breath on the cross.

Lu, 100% RIGHT!

But it seems to me that I wasn’t clear enough in my post, as I explained WHAT HAPPENED TO JESUS’SPIRIT, precisely immediately on Jesus’ death! John13:31-32. Here is again…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: If Jesus is God, then Jesus has a Son. Because God has a Son.

Scripture:

Hebrews 2:13 And again: I will put my trust in him. And again:
Behold I and MY CHILDREN, whom God hath given me.
The above is a clear assertion that

JESUS IS BOTH A FATHER AND ALSO HAS CHILDREN!

Notice: …….whom GOD HAS GIVEN ME!  present…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

YOU: Jesus is both the firstborn of all creation and the firstborn from the dead.

Jesus is both the firstborn of all creation,

ME: DEFINITELY,  IN

LUCIFER, THE BEGINNING, THE LIGHT BRINGER, THE MORNING STAR.(“THE WORD” JESUS THE SON OF MAN TO BE HIDDEN IN LUCIFER, THE TRUE LIGHT; THE FIRST SON OF GOD, ANDROGYNOUS, MALE AND…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

YOU: The statement “today I have begotten you” is not said after Jesus’ baptism.

Me: I agree 100%.

YOU: That was said on the resurrection day.

Me: In view of the above it is not as simple as it looks. 

IN FULL HUMILITY AND THANKS FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO ENLIGHTENED ME, A MERE MORTAL AND SINNER,

ALLOW ME TO CLARIFY  IN THIS REGARD…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

YOU: Actually, I’m declaring that Jesus is neither “God”, nor “mankind”.  He is the mediator BETWEEN those two parties. 

No mediator can BE one of the parties that he mediates BETWEEN.

ME: PERFECT Mike!

JESUS IS NEITHER ONE NOR THE OTHER, TO BE CLEAR,

JESUS IS NEITHER  GOD, NOR MAN, BUT
BOTH! 
BOTH VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE!  T…[Read more]

Hi Mike

Prov 8:22…  Yahweh created me as the first of His works…

ME: The above translation is the least popular of all translations!

But let’s see what this verse actually says!

First and foremost JESUS IS A PERFECT PARADOX!
Thus Jesus is both created and not created!
the fact that all is created by him, in him, and for him!

Mike, We have…[Read more]

Carmel: 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator of God and men, the man Christ Jesus: 

THE ABOVE Mr. Mike is the clearest evidence that 

JESUS POSSESSES
A SPIRITUAL FLESH BODY!
you: Then your evidence is not clear at all – especially if you would have quoted the rest of the statement.

For there is one God, and one mediator betwe…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: To all…….Scripture say , sin entered in this world by “MAN” , and by “a MAN”   it was “atoned  for.”  No where does it say , by a being “morphed” into a human body was our sins atoned for.

Scripture clearly says:
Psalm 49: 7No brother can redeem,
nor shall man redeem:
he shall not give to God his ransom,
Peace and love in Jesus Christ