carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Mike,
You: Since my statement doesn’t include a direct quote of your words,
Me: PLEASE POST THE DIRECT QUOTE OF MY WORDS!
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
ISAIAH 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations?
13And thou saidst in thy heart:
I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God,
I will sit in the mountain of the covenant, in the sides of the north.
14I will ascend…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Mike,
You: You say that when God says He MADE the heaven and the earth in six days, it means something different to God CREATING the heaven and the earth in six days. Prove it
FIRST AND FOREMOST:
Where did I say THOSE PRECISE WORDS BROTHER MIKE!
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Berean,
You: Hi Carmel
I am surprised that you hide the fact that: there is the formless and empty and dark earth BEFORE THE LIGHT appears.
Berean, I’m afraid somehow my message didn’t work, Read again:
Allow me to make it more clear for you, WHAT I MEANT!
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH!
Reading the…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Mike,
You: Dang Carmel… why can’t your posts to ME be like that? At least this is one single incoherent statement instead of a 5000 word incoherent novel!
Mike, I tell you THEY ARE NOT INCOHERENT NOVELS AT ALL, AS THEY ARE NOT MINE IN THEIR ENTIRETY, BUT MOSTLY OLD REVELATIONS.
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Berean,
You: Hebrews 1 help us
Hebrews1 :10-11
And, Thou, Lord , in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth;
and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
ME: With the above, we are still BLANK specifically!
Allow me to make it more clear for you, WHAT I MEANT!
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created THE HEAVENS AND THE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Mike,
Thanks FOR YOUR NOVEL!
Also, are YOU ready for the longest NOVEL I EVER WROTE ON HEAVEN NET?
AFTER ALL, I HAVE TO ANSWER YOUR NOVEL! NO?
You: You say that when God says He MADE the heaven and the earth in six days, it means something different to God CREATING the heaven and the earth in six days. Prove it
FIRST AND F…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Berean
You: THEREFORE THE FIRST STEP IN THE CREATION PROCESS IS THE HEAVEN AND EARTH AND NOT LIGHT.
ME: How in your opinion, always based on scripture,
IN GENESIS 1:1 GOD CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH?
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Berean,
You: God could have made/created man by speaking,
without using dust from the earth.
He did so to show/instruct us that we are DEPENDENT ON HIS CREATIVE BREATH OF LIFE.
You know what I mean.ME: Yes, I agree, but
WHY ARE WE DEPENDENT ON HIS CREATIVE BREATH OF LIFE?
OBVIOUS; FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT WE IN ACTUAL FACT WERE IN…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Mike,
Back to my post; I wasn’t clear enough by my question!
I should have asked you:
HOW CAN I ANSWER A QUESTION NOT IN RELATION TO GENESIS?
WE ARE DISCUSSING GENESIS NOT EXODUS!
EXODUS DOES NOT SAY:
GOD CREATED HEAVEN AND EARTH!BUT
for in six days the LORD made the heaven and the earth,
Genesis is clear and in verse 3, it says: ……[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Carmel: ONLY Genesis 1:1 says: 1In the beginning God created heaven, and earth. ….
GENESIS 1:2 IS NOT A BEGINNING IT IS THE STATE OF THE EARTH AFTER THE BEGINNING OF GENESIS 1:1
Exodus 31:15-17… For six days work may be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of complete rest… for in six days the LORD made the heaven and the earth,…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Carmel: HE REBELLED AND FLOODED THE EARTH! THE MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING!
PSALM 18! WHERE DAVID WAS THE ONLY ONE SAVED
You: Yahweh flooded the earth, and Noah and his family were the only ones saved in the ark.
ME: EXPLAIN HOW THE WORLD WAS TOTALLY SUBMERGED IN Genesis 1:2
Now read and explain: by the way do not include scriptures as par…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years ago
Hi Mike,
Carmel: Reading the above, IT CLEARLY SAYS that God not only created things but also MADE THINGS.
Isaiah 43:7… Even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him.In the above, God said He created, formed, and made everyone that is called by His name. Do you t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
Carmel: MIKE WHAT MAKES YOU SURE THAT THE WORDS “LIGHT” and “DARKNESS” WERE IN ACTUAL FACT ONLY LITERALLY SO?
You: I have no valid reason to think otherwise.
THE VALID REASON IS THAT WE ARE ANALYZING GOD’S WORK AND HIS MYSTERIES! Mr. Mike!
Genesis 1: 2And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
YOU: The first three days (before the sun, moon, and stars) were also called “days” and “nights” by God, right? Those first three days also had a period of light and period of darkness – just like “days” do today, right?
Genesis 1:3 And God said: Be light made. And light was made. 4And God saw the light that it was good; and he di…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
You: Heaven is plural in the Hebrew throughout Gen 1 also
ME: WHY NOT SO ALSO IN ENGLISH?
ME: GOD KNEW LUCIFER’S HEART AND HIS EVENTUAL REBELLION, AND THIS STATE WAS SOMEHOW REFLECTED IN GENESIS 1:1, BUT CAME INTO EFFECT IN GENESIS 1:2
YOU: But the Ezekiel passage begins…
Ezekiel 28:12-14… You were the seal of perfection, full of…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
You: I’m not interested in these things unless you can show me in scripture that there was a Lucifer rebellion before God created the heaven and the earth.
OF Genesis 1:3…..
I know you hate novels BUT HOW ON EARTH CAN ONE TALK ABOUT GOD’S MYSTERIES WITHOUT THEM? THE FACT THAT EVEN HE HIMSELF WROTE THEM AND STILL WRITING THE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
Carmel: GENESIS 1:1 THE ENTIRE COSMOS WAS CREATED IN TOTAL GOD’S HARMONY…
<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>YOU: What do you mean by “the entire cosmos”? </span>
<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Does that include the sun and the stars? </span>
ME: Mike, Genesis 1:1 has nothing to do with Genesis 1:2!
Genesis 1:1 was created in…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago
Here is the rest of the revelation:
Anyone who wants to delve deeper will also come to a more profound understanding. At first, it is only necessary to know of a Power That brought everything into existence the human being can see around himself, as well as the creations he is unable to see. Before the far-reaching correlations can be…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Conspiracy theories, myths, or truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 3 years, 1 month ago
Hi Mike,
You: Because according to scripture, God created both “day” and “night” on the first “day”.
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.
2And the earth was void and empty, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the spirit of God moved over the waters.
3And God said: Be light made. And light was made. 4And…[Read more]
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