Hi Mike,

You: CARMEL, IS GEN 2:4 SPEAKING OF TWO DIFFERENT HEAVENS AND EARTHS?  YES OR NO PLEASE?

Me: FIRST AND FOREMOST;

WITH YOUR QUESTION YOU CONFIRMED THAT YOU ARE NOT YET READY TO BE FED
ON MEAT!
NOW, YOUR QUESTION ABOVE IS NOT CLEAR ENOUGH TO BE ANSWERED, WITH JUST A SIMPLE
YES OR NO
FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THIS PARTICULAR VERSE IS…[Read more]

Hi Mike

You: Gen 1:2-31…  All the things God made, and the order in which they were made, ie:

Light on day 1…….

Me: NO Mike, NOT QUITE SO!

YOU KEEP ON SAYING THINGS SCRIPTURE SAYS, ON THE OTHER HAND, THESE THINGS HAVE NEVER BEEN SAID

AND IT’S ONLY YOUR CORRUPTED CONCLUSIONS!

ACCORDING TO Genesis 1:2 WITH RESPECT TO WHAT IS WRITTEN, ON…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: Of course I believe that,

Me: Mike NOWHERE DURING OUR DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER YOU EVER POSTED AND SAID THAT 

GENESIS 1:1 IS A SUMMARY!

I CHALLENGE YOU TO PRODUCE SPECIFICALLY AND CLEARLY SUCH A STATEMENT!

You: Carmel. I not only said it was, but even brought up Gen 2:4 as another example of the same. 

NO, Mike, <…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: My question is simple…

CARMEL, IS GEN 2:4 SPEAKING OF TWO DIFFERENT HEAVENS AND EARTHS?  YES OR NO PLEASE?

NOT BEFORE YOU ANSWER MINE WHICH I ASKED WELL BACK ON 

APRIL 24, 2022 AT 11:38 AM #931343 PAGE 93

Answer Mike,

DO YOU MEAN THAT GENESIS 1:1 IS A SORT OF SUMMARY OF  WHICH TO FOLLOW?

YES OR NO PLEASE:

Peace and…[Read more]

Hi Danny,

DEFINITELY
TRINITARIAN
Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Hi Mike,

YOU; FIRST OF ALL, YOU’RE BLATANTLY WRONG…

Let’s begin by pointing out that the phrase “back in the day” has been around since at least the 1940s, and the phrase “back in the days” has been around a lot longer, since the 18th century.

But in those earlier usages, “back in the day” and “back in the days” were part of larger phrases tha…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: Your second verse, Phil 2:7, doesn’t include the past tense “formed”, so it doesn’t even apply.

Me: HA! HA ! HA! READ:

WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER Mike to be KISSED or that someone KISS you?

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being (FORMED A GOD) in the form of   God, thought it not robbe…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: Carmel

You are on dangerous ground…

ME: YOU ARE PART OF IT!

Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

You: Not everything you say is ROCK BASED. RETURN TO THE SIMPLICITY AND PURITY OF GOD’S WORD.

God bless

You: ONLY SCRIPTURE DETERMINES THAT!

TILL THEN 
MY STAND…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: Okay, time to take a different tack…

CARMEL, DOES THE PLURAL WORD “DAYS” EVER REFER TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN LITERAL 24-HOUR DAYS IN THE BIBLE?  YES OR NO?  AND IF YES, SHOW THE SCRIPTURE(S).
 

Me: Mike from that same page, and the same post I asked this question hereunder:

Answer Mike,

DO YOU MEAN THAT GENESIS 1:1 IS A SOR…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

Carmel:  According to Google fight, back in the days seems more popular: 1,800,000,000 against 584,000,000.

You: So there you have it.  Both are acceptable, and both are used by millions of people today, just as both were used at various times in the Bible. 

Produce scripture please that supports your conclusions!

Therefore there is…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

So there you have it.  Both are acceptable, and both are used by millions of people today, just as both were used at various times in the Bible

You: Therefore there is no need to address your novel of scriptural examples which has no bearing on my point anyway.

Hi Mike,

You: And your argument that one heaven/earth was “created” while the other was “made” has been shot down by Gen 2:4 (among other scriptures).  So now what will you do?
Okay, time to take a different tack…
Me: THIS IS THE DIFFERENT TRACK, BUT NOT  THE ONE YOU ARE ONLY HOPING
I’M AFRAID!
A MUST SHORT NOVEL

Now the first part of v. 4 ……[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: Do you think Gen 2:4 is talking about two different heavens and earths – one that God “created” and the other one that He “made”? 

Just how far are you willing to take your nonsense?

Me: MIKE, I AM ONLY A SUBJECT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

The above scripture is clearly talking about THE GENERATIONS OF THE HEAVEN (SINGULAR)  AND THE EAR…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

You: I posted a screenshot of an actual mainstream thesaurus page that lists all of them as synonyms just last week. 

Me: Mike LOOK AT THE LISTS I POSTED, OF SYNONYMS OF THE SAME WORDS , WHICH YOU SIMPLY IGNORED:

Genesis 2:7And the Lord God FORMED man of the slime of the earth:

Mike, WHAT DID GOD DO IN THE ABOVE?

Synonyms fo…[Read more]

You: Plus, Gen 2:4 that we are discussing lists both “created” and “made” in the same dang sentence concerning the heaven and earth, Carmel! 

Me: First and foremost, we were never discussing Gen. 2:4 as such, it was you who introduced it to justify your perception that the conjunction “AND” asserts that Gen. 1:1 and Gen.2:4 are not only parallel…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

Me: (1) DID YOU CREATE YOUR SON? AND HOW?
(2) DID YOU FORM YOUR SON? AND HOW?
(3) DID YOU MAKE YOUR SON? AND HOW?
(4) DID YOU ESTABLISH YOUR SON? AND HOW

(1) Yes, through You: the act of procreation

MY QUESTION Mike, WAS CLEAR
DID YOU …….. and HOW?
PROCREATION IS NOT 
A ONE-MAN JOB!
YOU,
ALL BY YOURSELF DIN’T CREATE, MADE, FORM…[Read more]

Carmel: Genesis 1:11 In the beginning God created heaven, and earth. 2And the earth was void and empty, 

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heaven and of the earth
when they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven. 5And no plant of the field was yet in the earth…

Genesis 5:1 1This is the book of the generation…[Read more]

Hi Mike,

ME:1) DID YOU CREATE YOUR SON? AND HOW?
(2) DID YOU FORM YOUR SON? AND HOW?
(3) DID YOU MAKE YOUR SON? AND HOW?
(4) DID YOU ESTABLISH YOUR SON? AND HOW

MY QUESTION Mike, WAS CLEAR
DID YOU ……..
PROCREATION IS NOT 
A ONE-MAN JOB!
You: (1) Yes, through the act of procreation. 

ME: NO ! YOU, ALL BY YOURSELF DIDN’T CREATE YOUR SON,   G…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: THE TOHUW BOHUW IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP IN THE CREATION OF THE EARTH AND THE HEAVENS…

Me: SCRIPTURE NEVER SAY SUCH THING!

IT IS ONLY YOUR ASSUMPTION.

GOD IS NOT THERE AS SUCH, HE IS ABSENT,

THE FACT THAT GOD SENT HIS SPIRIT!

NOW GOD HAS SEVEN SPIRITS!

WHICH ONE OF THESE SPIRITS  WAS?

JESUS IS “THE WORD” OF GOD AND THE WO…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: THE TOHUW BOHUW IS ONLY THE FIRST STEP IN THE CREATION OF THE EARTH AND THE HEAVENS…</span>

Me: SCRIPTURE NEVER SAY SUCH THING!

IT IS ONLY YOUR ASSUMPTION.

GOD IS NOT THERE AS SUCH, HE IS ABSENT,

THE FACT THAT GOD SENT HIS SPIRIT!

NOW GOD HAS SEVEN SPIRITS!

WHICH ONE OF THESE SPIRITS  WA…[Read more]