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    Hi Mike,

    First and foremost, I ignored the fact that in your last post you quit, in order to answer the post prior to that.

    Me Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
    ME: READ AGAIN ABOVE AND RESPECT THE SCRIPTURE NOT YOUR STUBBORNNESS:

    ANSWER PLEASE:

    WHO CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH IN GENESIS 1:1

    You:…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    You: As far as created perfect goes , that is not true,

    Ezekiel 28:15Thou wast PERFECT in thy ways from the day of thy CREATION, until iniquity was found in thee.

    Me: WHAT THE SCRIPTURE  ABOVE TELLS YOU?

    we were created with the propensity to sin from the very start of human creation  even till this very day,  all humans have that pr…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Proclaimer……. Jesus was certanily in the plan of God before the foundations of this earth,

    ME: THE OLD STORY Gene, 

    JESUS WAS NOT JUST IN THE PLAN OF GOD,  BUT 
    THE PLAN ITSELF!
    ALL IN HIM, ALL BY HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM!
    AT THE VERY END ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD, WE ONLY SEE 
    GOD IN JESUS
    AND  THE ENTIRE CREATION  ALL IN JESUS AS…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    YOU: If God flooded the earth when these “men” were visiting Abraham, would God need to move them to another planet to save them from the flood?  YES or NO, please.

    Me: THE ABOVE IS A NONSENSICAL QUESTION, Mike!

    You: No it’s not.  Here’s what’s going on…

    YES, Mike, it is a nonsensical question I’m afraid. YOU KNOW THAT THOSE SUPPOSE…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    6.  You now seem to be implying that David was like the three “men” who came from heaven to visit with Abraham – who were also on earth but not “humans like us”.

    ME: THAT’S YOUR NONSENSICAL ILLUSIONS. SINCE YOU IGNORED CLEAR SCRIPTURES. PSALM 18, and Job 38:8-21, 

    Okay… it’s your made up story and you can tell it any way you want to.  [Read more]

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    Hi Berean

    YOU: Carmel
    Everything you try to make us “swallow” is not approved BY CHRIST, NOR BY HIS APOSTLES, NOR BY HIS PROPHETS…. IT’S TIME TO BUILD ON THE ROCK…

    Matthew 7: 24/27: Whoever hears these words that I say and puts them into practice,
    will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
    25 The rain fell, the torrents came, the…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    ME: READ AGAIN AND RESPECT THE SCRIPTURE NOT YOUR STUBBORNNESS:

    Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    NOW ANSWER AGAIN PLEASE:

    DO YOU MEAN THAT 
    GOD THE FATHER, PERFECT,
    DID NOT CREATE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH IN Genesis 1:1 
    YES OR NO PLEASE!
     
    YOU: Yes, that is what I mean.  
    Genesis 1:1 In the begin…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    ME: ANSWER Mike, ARE THOSE SUPPOSED THREE MEN HUMANS OF EARTH? YES OR NO PLEASE!

    You: NO.  Now you answer:

    If God flooded the earth when these “men” were visiting Abraham, would God need to move them to another planet to save them from the flood?  YES or NO, please.

    Me: THE ABOVE IS A NONSENSICAL QUESTION, Mike!

    Mike, WOULD YOU PLEAS…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    YOU: You claim that the “first spiritual earth” didn’t have humans, right?
    ME. I cannot remember saying that!
    Now to be clear, if within your understanding, you expect that the terms generally speaking of this world could be applied to the first spiritual world, I can tell you straight away that you are well, well, and well far away…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    You: Carmel, I know the answers to your questions – because they are made evident in the scriptures. 

    I want to hear your direct answer to mine,

    Mike, I SAID THAT

    THAT, WAS MY ANSWER!

    But I have my ways how to produce my answers in full, so keep on reading:

    THIS TIME IN THE BIGGEST FORMAT!
    IS ELIJAH IN HEAVEN  NON-HUMAN
    You: bec…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike:

    You: Was David non-human then?

    Me:  MIKE IS JESUS IN HEAVEN NON-HUMAN

    You: I asked first.  What is your answer?

    Me: Mike THAT WAS MY ANSWER, THAT’S WHY I NEVER PUT THE INTERROGATION MARK!

    SO MY ANSWER IS THE SAME BUT SLIGHTLY BIGGER!
    IS ENOCH NON-HUMAN IN HEAVEN
    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

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    Hi Mike,

    FIRST AND FOREMOST

    JUST TO REMIND YOU: 

    GO BACK AND REPLY TO MY POST ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE PLEASE  #932077

    WHERE I ASKED YOU TO

    FIND ANOTHER SCRIPTURE

    THAT PRODUCES ANOTHER  SIMILAR STATEMENT LIKE

    “God made  THE EARTH AND THE HEAVENS

    God created THE EARTH AND THE HEAVENS

    God formed THE EARTH AND THE HEAVENS

    God establis…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    ME: NOW THE SUBSTANCE AND ESSENCE OF GOD IS SPIRIT! NOTHING ELSE!
    DO YOU AGREE?
    YES OR NO? 
    You: NO
    THIS IS NOT BIBLICAL….
    John4: 24 God is a spirit;
    and they that adore him, must adore him
    in spirit and in truth.
    Berean,  explain what the biblical declaration

    “GOD IS A SPIRIT” above MEANS?

    John 6:62 If then you shall see the Son…[Read more]

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    ME:  TOHU VA BOHU…

    You: “Empty” and “void” are not inherently evil or chaotic words. 

    If your gas tank is “empty and void” and you have a long way to go, that’s bad.  If your gas tank is “empty and void” when your car catches fire, that’s good.

    ME: IN WHICH VERSION ONE CAN FIND THE ABOVE Mike, PLEASE?

    HOW COME YOU PRODUCED YOUR OWN  CORRUPT…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

    YOU SAY: THE ENTIRE SPIRITS WITHIN GOD BEFORE CREATION!

    ME: WHERE HAVE YOU SEEN THIS IN THE BIBLE?

    I SAID GOD IS A SPIRIT, OR MORE PRECISE,

    THE ENTIRE SPIRITS  WITHIN GOD BEFORE CREATION! ALL IN HIM! ALL BY HIN, and ALL FOR HIM!

    WHEN YOU LOOK AT GOD BEFORE CREATION, YOU SEE

    THE ENTIRE CREATION ALL IN GOD, ALL SPIRITS!

    NOW THE…[Read more]

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    Hi Berean,

     Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God CREATED the heavens and earth.

    THE ABOVE IS A CLEAR REFERENCE BOTH TO THE HEAVENLY REALMS AND THE COSMOS,

    BOTH TO THE SPIRITS AND THE PHYSICALS. 

    You: Hi Carmel, 

    Where do You see SPIRITS in Genesis 1?

    ME: Berean,

    DON’T TELL ME THAT YOU CANNOT SEE THE WORD
    “GOD” 
    GOD IS A SPIRIT, OR MORE PREC…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

    I DIDN’T QUITE GET THAT!

     READ AGAIN AND RESPECT THE SCRIPTURE NOT YOUR STUBBORNNESS:

    Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    NOW ANSWER AGAIN PLEASE:

    DO YOU MEAN THAT 
    GOD THE FATHER, PERFECT,
    DID NOT CREATE THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH IN Genesis 1:1 
    YES OR NO PLEASE!

     

    Peace and love in Jesus Christ

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    Hi Mike,

    YOU; FOR PRETENDER, CARMEL, AND GENE…

    Revelation 21:1…  And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

    Is John calling the current earth on which we live the FIRST earth?

    ME: DEFINITELY Mike!

    NOW, WHY DID JOHN CALL OUR CURRENT CURSED EARTH THE FIRST EARTH?[Read more]

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    Hi Mike,

     

    Me: NOW, DID GOD THE FATHER, PERFECT, CREATE THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH IN Genesis 1:1 PERFECT?

    YES OR NO?

     

    You: There was no heaven or earth in Gen 1:1 – perfect or otherwise.

    ME: I NEVER ASKED YOU IF THERE WAS HEAVEN OR EARTH  PERFECT OR OTHERWISE IN GENESIS 1:1

    THE ABOVE IS NOT VALID AS AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTION!

    NOW READ AG…[Read more]

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    Carmel: Mike, guess what I’m going to do!….

    I WILL TAKE YOUR SUGGESTION FOR A CHANGE AND I ASK YOU:

    FIND ANOTHER SCRIPTURE THAT PRODUCES ANOTHER  SIMILAR STATEMENT LIKE

    “GOD MADE/CREATED/FORMED/ESTABLISHED/FURNISHED, 
    THE EARTH AND THE HEAVEN” 
    You:

    Okay…

    Isaiah 45:18… For this is what the LORD says—
    he who created the heavens,[Read more]

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