carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Mike: Hey there Carmel. I’m going to pick just a few of Jesus’ titles out of your long list to discuss…
Bread of God – John 6:33; 50
Christ of God – Luke 9:20
Holy One of God – Mark 1:24
Image of God – 2 Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15
Lamb of God – John 1:29
Son of God – Luke 1:35
Wisdom of God – 1 Corinthians 1:24
carmel replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Luke 2:And seeing him, they wondered. And his mother said to him: Son, why hast thou done so to us? behold thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49And he said to them:
How is it that you sought me?
did you not know,
that I must be about my father’s business?
50And they UNDERSTOOD not the word that he spoke unto t…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Our argument is not about Jesus just coming in the flesh,
it is about he never preexist as “anything” else, before his birth on this earth.
Me: You can do as you like Gene, you HAVE YOUR OWN FREE WILL, but that does not mean that YOU ARE RIGHT WITH RESPECT TO THE SCRIPTURES.
To start with:
Me: If Jesus came in the flesh,
FROM…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi,
YOU: ME: Could you please elaborate on this though? Where I am really stuck is with people saying on one hand
the child born unto Mary given the name Jesus was of Mary and of the Holy Spirit,
making him thus God’s son and Mary’s son, but on the other hand they say
an already existing son came down from heaven to become a hum…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi,
YOU: Carmel,
Go read Genesis 17, Issac is the biological son of Abraham …..
Genesis 1:1And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. 2And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. 3And…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Or haven’t you ever read this, “the Son of man can do “NOTHING” of himself, the Father who is “IN” him “HE” does the work.
Me: WHEN JESUS SPOKE THOSE WORDS HE WAS NOT YET GLORIFIED AS GODMAN!
NOW READ:
John13:3 Knowing that the Father had given him
ALL THINGS INTO HIS HANDS,
and that he came from God, and goeth to God;
[Read more]carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Carmel…….GOD THE FATHER “IS” HOLY, AND IS “SPIRIT”, GET IT ?,
BEING a Spirit he can and does dwell in us “himself”
exactly as he did in Jesus?
Genesis 2:15 And the Lord God took man, and put him into the paradise for pleasure, to dress it, and keep it. 16And he commanded him, saying: Of every tree of paradise thou shalt e…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi,
YOU: “Abraham begat Isaac; ……..
Now show me the scripture where Abraham had intercourse with Sarah please: To be more precise read:
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife: who conceived and brought forth Cain, ……
I am waiting!
Peace and love in Jesus Christcarmel replied to the topic Joseph, Jesus' father? Crazy people would believe this! in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You: Of course now, from upon his resurrection having received the promised Spirit, he is the invisible image of God.
Me: Apart from your carnal mind and reasoning which are simply WRONG, may I ask you:
IS JESUS THE INVISIBLE IMAGE OF GOD ONLY? I MEAN
IS THAT ALL?
ALSO
YOU: from upon his resurrection having received the promised…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Jodi, and Gene,
YOU: than you might as well say that we are YHVH too.
Me: That’s right Jodi:
WE ARE!
ALL IN JESUS CHRIST GODMAN! John1:1, Colossians 1:17,John17:5 And now glorify thou me, O Father,
with thyself, with the glory which I HAD,( JESUS PRE-EXISTED AS THE EMBODIMENT OF GOD; GODMAN, SPIRITFLESH. )
before the world was, with th…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: LU……Jesus is a prototype of all of humanity, he is the first to recieve perfection,
“of many” . The trinitarian view of Jesus being a God is completely a destorted view of him, you must come to see Jesus as one of us human being,
who God “perfected”, by his Holy Spirit.
Gene, LETS’ READ SCRIPTURE :
John 4:34 Jesus sait…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Mike,
Hey there Carmel. I’m going to pick just a few of Jesus’ titles out of your long list to discuss…
Bread of God – John 6:33; 50
Christ of God – Luke 9:20
Holy One of God – Mark 1:24
Image of God – 2 Corinthians 4:4; Colossians 1:15
Lamb of God – John 1:29
Son of God – Luke 1:35
Wisdom of God – 1 Corinthians 1:24[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Mike, Gene, and Jodi,
You:
In the Bible, Jesus is called…
1. Son of God.
2. Only begotten son of God.
3. Servant of God.
4. Priest of God.
5. Holy one of God.
6. Word of God.
7. Anointed one of God.
8. Messenger of God.
9. Sacrificial lamb of God.
10. Prophet of God.
I call Jesus all of those things because the scriptures…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 5 months ago
Hi Gene,
You: Carmel……..using “wisdom” which is, an “atribute” of God the Father, as the person Jesus, is just more of your “lying” corruption of scriptures,
ME: Produce AS I DID, the relevant scripture Gene, please!
Peace and love in Jesus Christ
carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 6 months ago
Hi Berean,
You:
Me
Always this “YES”…”BUT”….
Read:
“For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ: Israel even had the presence of Jesus Christ with them in the wilderness! Here, in identifying the Rock that followed them, Paul builds on a rabbinical tradition that said Israel was supplied with water by…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 6 months ago
Hi Gene,
Carmel…….yes the rock was The christos, but that wasen’t the man Jesus, he had not even been anointed with the Holy Spirit yet,
because he didn’t exist yet.
How about reading this prophecy Gene, hereunder:
Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, and hear this:
I have not spoken in secret from the beginning: (John1:1-3 )from the t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 6 months ago
Hi Jodi
You: Good Morning All,
I want to add a few more,
Being filled with the Spirit does not equate to being born of the Spirit and thus begotten by God?
ME: “BEGOTTEN BY GOD” IS NOT ONLY A MILE AWAY FROM JOHN’S PROCLAMATION HEREUNDER, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO BE COMPARED WITH:
(A) John1:18 No man hath seen God at any time:
(B) the “ONLY”…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic The Yahweh Unity in the forum Truth or Tradition 2 years, 6 months ago
Hi Jodi,
Jesus rose from the dead being given the PROMISED Holy Spirit,
such makes him of the Divine Nature,
ME: EXPAND PLEASE, THE ABOVE IS NOT CLEAR.
having YVHV’s Spirit DWELLING IN you makes you of the divine nature,
makes you a begotten Son, one born of God, born of His Spirit,
which he also was at the river Jordan.
Jodi the task at t…[Read more]carmel replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 6 months ago
Hi, Jodi and ALL,
Attention please all, read Jodi’s twisted preaching:
Jodi: He would be led by the Spirit where God would hold his hand and keep him to walk in all his ways,
thus a Son of God through the Spirit upon him.
NO, Jodi, JESUS IS NOT “A” SON OF GOD and neither“THROUGH THE SPIRIT UPON HIM”,
JESUS IS ETERNALLY ONE SUBSTANCE W…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Did God create all things through the Lord Jesus Christ? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 2 years, 6 months ago
Hi Jodi,
You:
Berean and anyone else,
If Jesus existed as a perfect Son from the beginning and he is also a firstborn of many brethren where we are joint heirs with him being heirs of God,
then why wouldn’t God have just made us like him from the beginning?
Genesis 1:26 And he said: Let us MAKE MAN to our image and likeness: ..…[Read more]
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