Carmel. He came in the flesh. His name was Jesus.

But again, the fact that it says “A CHILD….” is not just a reference to Jesus.

IT IS ALSO A REFERENCE TO HIS MOTHER MARY!

SHE WAS BORN FIRST. ‘AND THROUGH HER

HE WAS NOT REALLY BORN BUT GIVEN TO US, SINCE HE PRE-EXISTED AND EVEN CREATED HIS OWN MOTHER!

SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:

ALL IN HIM, ALL BY…[Read more]

How come then that verse 6 says also

For a CHILD IS BORN to us,

May I ask also then,

Who is this CHILD?

Merry Christmas Mia and everyone.

WHY, may I ask:

unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?

WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?

Hi Proclaimer,

You: Still waiting Carmel.

Are you looking for a scripture?

Good luck.

Me: First and foremost,

I ASK THE SAME QUESTION AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME, PROCLAIMER, and still EXPECTING your answer, read, please.

IS YOUR SPIRIT YOU?

IS YOUR SOUL YOU?

IS YOUR FLESH BODY YOU?

Now, regarding this post, the headache is not to find the…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: I was clear about how we discover truth. I gave a few examples. I still believe what I said.

Me: Let’s read again what you said:

You: Scripture, logic, and history all disprove the Trinity.

Me: which for God counts for nothing, only His spirit gives LIFE/existence to His work even PHYSICAL!

You cannot apply much if any…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: GOD IS A Spirit, and being a Spirit can exist “IN” PEOPLE. 

Me: NEVER GOD DIRECTLY  CAN ABIDE IN PEOPLE!

THE FACT THAT THERE’S ONLY ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN 

OUR (human)   Lord God  JESUS CHRIST.

Read and accept the TRUTH!

John 17:22 And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one,[Read more]

Produce scripture where God the Father Himself proclaim that

HE IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD! OR

HE IS THE TRUTH!

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Hi Proclaimer,

OUR LORD PHYSICAL AND TANGIBLE GOD

JESUS CHRIST

You: Not God, but God’s Son.

The visible IMAGE of the invisible God.

This is what scripture teaches.

Believe or don’t believe.

Your choice.

ME: my choice is the truth.

JESUS IS TRUTH

Produce scripture where God the Father Himself proclaim that

HE IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD! OR<…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: One is the ONLY TRUE GOD.

Me: AND WHO IS THIS

ONE TRUE GOD!

ON THIS PHYSICAL TANGIBLE PLANET, THE ONLY WAY FOR US PHYSICAL AND TANGIBLE ENTITIES THAT  IN THE TRUTH ASSERT THAT SOMETHING IS

TRUE, IT MUST ALSO BE PHYSICAL AND TANGIBLE!

GOD IS NOT!

HE IS THE MOST MYSTERIOUS AND UNKNOWN STATE OF LOVE!

John 17:25 Just…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: The Son IS God in infinity (essence, nature…) BUT NOT IN PERSONALITY.

Only GOD THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN PERSON.

Me: ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT THE FATHER AS A PERSON IS

GOD IN FLESH!

Now read what Jesus Said:

John 17:2 As thou hast given him power OVER ALL FLESH,

that he may give eternal life to all whom thou hast g…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: Scripture, logic, and history all disprove the Trinity.

Me: Now you deviated from the subject.

We are discussing the verification pf TRUTH in this world.

I gave you a rather childish example to be clear and simple and you ignored it.

I maintain my point and conclude what I started myself.

So the only way  for me to make…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: Not sure which is best. While revelation from God is the best,

it is open to controversy.

ME: That’s why I said:

FORGET SCRIPTURE!

I also said:

IN OUR PHYSICAL TERMS PLEASE!

Maybe I wasn’t that clear!

So I’ll be more specifically clear:

I know nothing regarding colours, and a person, tells me that if I mix blue paint…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

YOU: The Word was WITH God.

Then we are taught that Jesus Christ is with God now, and in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.

Deal with it.

I ALREADY DID IN THE POST#941611 ADDRESSED TO Jodi and Gene.

Nevertheless

Let’s DEAL WITH IT AND BE MORE SPECIFIC FOR THE SAKE OF TRUTH.

You: Something was WITH God before…[Read more]

Just specify THE BEST ONE!

FORGET SCRIPTURE!

IN OUR PHYSICAL TERMS PLEASE!

SINCE GOD OPTED TO ENTER THIS WORLD

IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN!

Hi Proclaimer,

You: @carmel

yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.

Now this is eternal life:

that they…[Read more]

Are there any Trinitarians left in in Heaven Net?

Perhaps they ran away?

Certainly, they lost this debate. How do I know?

Their every argument to support the Trinity was debunked and they simply ignored the argument and evidence for

the Father being the only true God.

ME: AND HOW CAN WE CONFIRM THAT SOMETHING IS TRUE IN THIS…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

YOU: Hi Carmel,

My father passed away recently and between work which is extremely stressful and grieving and preparing his celebration of life with my mom I haven’t had much time or the strength to post.

I have a couple weeks off that starts this Friday, so I will have some time to post soon

Me: TERRIBLY SORRY TO HEAR THAT.

PLEASE A…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

I am not at all surprised that you remain SILENT and I don’t blame you!

HUMBLY SPEAKING,

AFTER ALL, YOU ARE DISCUSSING THESE THINGS WITH

THE HOLY GHOST IN ME!

1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand,

that no man, speaking by the Spirit of God, saith Anathema to Jesus.

And no man can say the Lord Jesus, but by the…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: But someone had to be the first to be with God.

Me: Now, YES, who is THIS SOMEONE THOUGH?

DEFINITELY AD INTRA , within the deity, AND NOT AD EXTRA outside the deity/creation, OR ELSE,
GOD COULD IN NO WAY BE OUR SAVIOUR AT ALL!
AS SIMPLE AS THAT,

SINCE HE HAD TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE WITH HIM AND BE INSEPARABLE!

BEFORE THE …[Read more]

Hi Jodi and Gene,

Continue from my last post.

You: He established before the world was, even the man Jesus of Nazareth shedding his blood to pay for our sins was determined by our God and Father from the beginning.

Me: Correction, No not from the beginning but BEFORE THE BEGINNING,

AS GOD IN ALL HIS TASKS AD INTRA, HAS NO BEGINNING Jodi,…[Read more]