Quote (vjesnik @ Oct. 05 2011,10:35)There are a lot of opinions on who Jesus is and lot of biblical texts that different doctrines interpret differently. So how to know which interpretations are right?To me most wise would be to start with this question: who God the Father says Jesus was/is? Once we have the answer to this question it would be…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2011,02:26)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 06 2011,09:06)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 05 2011,10:47)Quote (vjesnik @ Oct. 05 2011,17:35)There are a lot of opinions on who Jesus is and lot of biblical texts that different doctrines interpret differently. So how to know which interpretations are right?To me most wise would be to start…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 05 2011,10:47)Quote (vjesnik @ Oct. 05 2011,17:35)There are a lot of opinions on who Jesus is and lot of biblical texts that different doctrines interpret differently. So how to know which interpretations are right?To me most wise would be to start with this question: who God the Father says Jesus was/is? Once we have the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 04 2011,22:38)Charles,I have been visiting this site for two years now. I remember being so shocked at being told Jesus was not God. It really distressed me. I have learned to have a thicker skin. I have enjoyed learning what different beliefs are out there, and discussing them with others. I have some advice for you my…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 04 2011,13:46)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 04 2011,13:47)Now read Romans 1:20:23.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 04 2011,13:34)So, is that a YES or a NO, Charles?  Do you have any scriptural proof that would convince us that the Son OF God having power makes him the God he is the Son OF?I vote “NO”.  Because simply having power, (especially when we know that power was GIVEN BY God), does not make someone God Himself.Your second p…[Read more]

Now read Romans 1:20:23.  20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 27 2011,12:06)Quote (carmel @ Sep. 26 2011,12:43) Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Was Jesus GOD in the flesh on earth, or was he NOT?  You can't have it both ways.  You make me laugh!!I proved in all my posts on heaven net that He is God in flesh on earth.Matthew 10: 40He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me r…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 22 2011,08:59)Quote (carmel @ Sep. 21 2011,10:15)Wrong.First it isn’t within our intelligence as mortal beings, that we could say that the Father is greater then Jesus, as a spirit being.When Jesus stated in John 14:28  “I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.” He wasn’t referring to divinity or power, b…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2011,12:58)Quote (carmel @ Sep. 18 2011,08:26)I can't see your point of “DIA”……..I also believe it is created by the Father  THROUGH the Son……….Hi Charles,”Dia” is the Greek word that's sometimes translated as “by”, and other times as “through”.  I can see that won't be an issue between us, as it seems we c…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 18 2011,13:58)Quote (carmel @ Sep. 16 2011,00:31)My intentions are that we should have a smooth thread.Agreed.  I like one question/point/scripture at a time. Quote (carmel @ Sep. 16 2011,00:31)I felt that it would be more appropriate in this thread to choose one particular version in order to eliminate the hustle of…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Sep. 14 2011,21:00)Charles:  Please read the verse from Revelation that you quoted here, again, and see if maybe you didn't read it wrong.Those that are still “dead in their trespasses and sin” will be judged by their works. Those alive in Christ Jesus by faith are in “the other book that was opened….they were not judged, only the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 16 2011,12:48)Charles?  Will you stand and defend your “Proof Texts”?Mike,Patience please,Regarding the use of the Bible!My intentions are that we should have a smooth thread.There are quite a bit to discuss, and I felt that it would be more appropriate in this thread to choose one particular version in order to eliminate…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2011,11:15)Charles:  Who is omnipotent (all powerful)? 1 Chronicles 29:11 Philippians 3:20-211 Chronicles 29:11 Yours, O Jehovah, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the majesty and the splendor, for everything in heaven and earth is yours.  Yours, O Jehovah, is the kingdom; you are exalted as head over a…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Sep. 13 2011,20:35)Charles: To take a scripture like…..18 He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God…..and change its entire meaning to suit your doctrine with one word…”yet”…..is an atrocity! It is written…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Sep. 12 2011,21:01)Charles: You quoted:….Rev:20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.Those in Christ are not dead! We are alive in the spirit. The dead are those apart from God, lost in sin, working their…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 10 2011,09:06)Quote (carmel @ Sep. 09 2011,10:52)Jesus was first as God man on Earth, believe it or not.Not.Quote (carmel @ Sep. 09 2011,10:52)Jesus as He is now is God the Son glorified ,but within Him abide the Father, therfore the Father is also glorified in the Son.No, Jesus is still the Son OF God.  He is not “INSIDE…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2011,07:11)Quote (ftk @ Sep. 12 2011,04:37)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 11 2011,07:07)tkQuote The new way is the “Sabbath” rest in God. This is the day of rest from works for perfection. This is the day of the lord Jesus. Jesus came and did all the necessary work and took away our sin(wrong thinking) with the truth of God…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Sep. 11 2011,21:11)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2011,17:53)Quote (ftk @ Sep. 10 2011,07:51)Pierre: I've just been trying to show you a better way. I believed the things you say now for many years. When a person believes his perfection comes by his performance he never can achieve perfection. Like a carrot dangling in front of a horse. One…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 09 2011,09:52)Quote (carmel @ Sep. 08 2011,13:41)Example : God had no name but through Jesus(Jeshua,Yahu'shuah ) has a name.The old testament Jehovah is a mystery name, no one knows for certain which is which in so many gods, and lords . in the old testaments, God's Name, which He gave us as a remembrance of Him for…[Read more]