Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,14:10)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 08 2011,12:33)Mike that your definition in your own worldly wisdom.Your definition of Holy servant of God doesn't proof that Jesus wasn't equal and one God with the Father.A servant OF God is NOT the God he serves, Charles.  This is just basic common sense.Can you list any other SERVANT…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,14:25)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 08 2011,14:59)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,03:11)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 07 2011,20:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 08 2011,11:41)But what did you think about this one?Acts 2:22“Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 09 2011,07:57)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 08 2011,23:47)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2011,08:38)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 08 2011,15:11)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2011,04:55)CharlesQuote Ok they are one God The Father works in Jesus,and Jesus works through His Father within Himself.Therefore all scriptures are references to Both the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 08 2011,10:18)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 06 2011,23:29) ……..which it doesn't work since Jesus created all whatever was created.Even all the spiritual creatures……….Jesus the creator of all………Hi Charles,First, we have to do away with some unscriptural beliefs you have………….like “Jesus created all”.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2011,13:01)Mark and Charles,We are continually addressing YOUR posts.  Will you address Micah 5:4, and tell me why “God Almighty Jesus” will rule in the strength and name of HIS OWN GOD?(Mark, you made one response to this point, but have not addressed my response TO your response.)Also, will BOTH of you directly…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 08 2011,11:18)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 07 2011,09:13)What Jesus was referring to in this scripture. John 16 15 All things whatsoever the Father hath, are mine. Therefore I said, that he shall receive of mine, and shew it to you.  To this, of course:John 3:35The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.The…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2011,08:38)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 08 2011,15:11)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2011,04:55)CharlesQuote Ok they are one God The Father works in Jesus,and Jesus works through His Father within Himself.Therefore all scriptures are references to Both the Father and the Son. They were always divinely one GOD. THEY ARE…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 08 2011,04:55)CharlesQuote Ok they are one God The Father works in Jesus,and Jesus works through His Father within Himself.Therefore all scriptures are references to Both the Father and the Son. They were always divinely one GOD. THEY ARE INSEPARABLE.Therfore the Glory is to both in themselves.I respect your…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 07 2011,10:12)charlesQuote Pierre,QuoteGod is spirit being,And Jesus only, is God both spirit and flesh(not like ours thou).And through this mystery, Almighty God the Father  also owns the flesh since it was through Him that His Son was glorified, and also in the same instant glorified Himself, to prove that they are one…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2011,12:56)Quote (carmel @ Oct. 06 2011,15:06)Mike,Quote Could you tell us how God Himself could be all of these following things?Son OF God Prophet OF God Priest OF GodServant OF God Sacrificial Lamb OF God Word/Spokesman OF God Angel OF God Anointed one OF GodHow can you convince yourself that god cannot be not just…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 07 2011,23:37)Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 07 2011,22:01)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 07 2011,10:33)Charles, Humbly speaking like you said, the only way I believe I will totally and deeply understand God is when I die.      Peace and love-Mark  Mark, I agree I think trying to put God into human words, is impossible. I know God is lov…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2011,12:08)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,20:34)One last thing, When Jesus claims to be the Alpha and the Omega.Jesus is never called the “Alpha and Omega”.  That is said only about Jesus' own God.Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,20:34)How can that be if it is as you say? Wouldn't God have to make Jesus first?God DID…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 06 2011,12:28)I do not understand it. I know that Jesus was one with the Father. More than one in spirit only. Otherwise he couldn't have saidShow Us the Father! – John 14:8-11      Philip said to Jesus, “Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need.”Jesus answered, “Philip, I have been with you for a long time. So you sh…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 06 2011,12:18)I should also add: She says the flesh part of God was manifested in Jesus, Jesus as the flesh, while God as the Mind was in Heaven, I think she said??shimmer,This is for you to reflect upon for quite a while.Luke 10:22 NO ONE KNOWS WHO THE SON IS ,AND NO ONE KNOWS WHO THE FATHER IS        Luke 10:22 All thi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 06 2011,09:37)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 05 2011,05:57)Hey Mike,You said-”  Why is Jesus the only one you want to elevate to the status of the God who set him above his companions and anointed him with the oil of joy?”Because he is the only human man that was composed literally from God. His dad was literally God.But can't…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2011,10:38)CharlesQuote Pierre,I'm afraid you misunderstood me .I repeat:In your opinion how would you define a SON in  terms of God ?In human terms we understand what a SON is and also all the relations with his father, But when we are referring to the SON of God ,how would you define a SON of God in relation to His…[Read more]

Quote (vjesnik @ Oct. 06 2011,11:48)Quote vjesnik,Read these scriptures, and you yourself decide what Jesus is according to the Father.Hebrews 1:7 And to the angels indeed he saith: He that maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But to the Son: Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of justice is the sceptre of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2011,13:40)Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 06 2011,20:21)And if he was born by the power of the SPIRIT, and John saw the SPIRIT rest on him, and GOD IS A SPIRIT, wouldn't that with Jesus own testimony that when you see him you see the Father also testify he is God The Son?MarkGod is spirit being,but his will is also spirit just…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 04 2011,13:34)So, is that a YES or a NO, Charles?  Do you have any scriptural proof that would convince us that the Son OF God having power makes him the God he is the Son OF?I vote “NO”.  Because simply having power, (especially when we know that power was GIVEN BY God), does not make someone God Himself.Your second p…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 04 2011,13:41)Btw Charles,I do see all the scriptures and points you've been posting, such as: “Who is equal to God, but God!”  And they are all just as easily refuted as this one:  For someone to be EQUAL TO another, that someone cannot possibly BE that other.So don't think I'm ignoring your points.  It's just that I wo…[Read more]