Hi Gene,

You: Proclaimer…….Adam and Eve were both begotten from God,  so how does you saying Jesus was,  make him any different .  

Genesis 2:6 But a spring rose out the earth, watering all the surface of the earth. 7
And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth:
and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man became a living…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Could it be that Jesus the man was raised because he became a Christo’s, 

Me: Now according to you, WHEN EXACTLY DID JESUS BECAME

A CHRISTOS/ ANOINTED?

KEEP IN MIND THAT JESUS THE MAN DIED ON THE CROSS! NO?

HOW THEN HE BECAME ANOINTED?

WHAT ACTUALLY DID OCCUR TO JESUS ON HIS DEATH IN ORDER FOR HIM TO BECOME A CH…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

As I said regarding

WHO IS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD

Hereunder is an article for you to read from:

 
versebyverseministry
 

Scripture clearly shows the Angel of the Lord is the part of the Godhead, and in particular the pre-incarnate Christ.

The term “the Angel of the Lord” first appears in Genesis 16:

“7 Now the angel of…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel……..The anointing Spirit was in Moses , Calab ,Joushua, and the seventy Elders,  they all had the Spirit of God “in”  them, 

Me: THE ABOVE Gene, IS OUT OF CONTEXT!

Read again please:

Gude 1:5 I WILL THEREFORE ADMONISH YOU, THOUGH YE ONCE KNEW ALL THINGS,

that Jesus, having SAVED the people out of the land of Egypt,

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel…….Your scripture you quote is not referencing that it was Jesus  who brought them out of Egypt,  it is saying it was Joshua , the word for Joshua , in Hebrew is the exact same word for Jesus ,  in the GREEK LANGUAGE.  but we all know it was the man Joshua who brough them out of Egypt.

Hi Gene,

You: then show me one place in all of our scriptures that shows “any” activity of Jesus, before his birth on this earth. Please fine ““ONE” in our scriptures.  There is none, no not even one.  AND YOU SAY MY ARGUMENT IS A STRAW ARGUMENT.  PROVE IT!

Jude 1:4 For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto t…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

You: Later on, he came in the flesh and was sent into the world.

Me: TO BE MORE PRECISE,

HE CAME IN THE FLESH, FOR THE SIMPLE REASON

THAT HE WAS SENT BY THE FATHER, 

GOD ALL-KOWING, BEFORE THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE COSMOS, AS

THE LIGHT FROM LIGHT,

THE PRIMORDIAL LIGHT FROM THE PRIMORDIAL LIGHT, 

FROM AD ENTRA, WITHIN GOD, T…[Read more]

HI Gene,

Cont.

You: “ Now, this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”,

Me: UP TO NOW IN THE PREVIOUS POSTS I GAVE YOU THE CAKE,

NOW HERE COMES PART OF THE ICING:

In verse ONE Jesus, said:

….. , Father, the HOUR is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

OBVIOUS, in the above, Jesus referred to THE HOUR…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Me: Cont.

Now we come to your verse:

You: “this is eternal life, that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD……., 

NOW, THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE…..

In the above, Jesus, REFERRING definitely TO HIMSELF, TO HIS SPIRIT AS

“ETERNAL LIFE” and THE SOURCE of the entire PHYSICAL CREATION, John 6:27, and confirmed and said

[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..

“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD……., 

Cont. from the previous post!

John17:1 These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: I’m ending 2022 in the hospital with my husband who will be having a quadruple bypass in a few hours. 2023 is going to start with a 4 month recovery. Two days ago we didn’t know this would be the plan. Thanks to  the LORD for making us aware of 95% and 70% blockage in dangerous places! Trusting our Father and His Only Begotten Son!…[Read more]

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!

Gene,

THE OLD STORY Gene,

BLAH BLAH and BLAH

You: Carmel………I have quoted “exact”,  scriptures word for word
  in nearly every post, 
IN THIS CASE 
YOU SIMPLY DIDN’T
JUST BE HONEST AND PRODUCE GENUINE SCRIPTURES PLEASE.

TILL THEN MINE STANDS AS TRUTH!

THAT’S THE ONLY WAY TO DISCUSS THINGS PROPERLY AND JUSTIFY YOURSELF.

You: Carmel your d…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You:  “for by “GRACE”,  you being  saved, and that not of yourselves, (through the works of law),  it is a Gift from God, because the Law (forced compliance), couldn’t save anyone because of the weakness of the flesh,  but the Grace of God, working through the “holy spirit” (anointing) given us, does,  save us, because the Spirit of God…[Read more]

Hi Carmel,

I believe that Jesus was born of Mary even though He pre-existed as one born of God before creation. I believe that Jesus was born in the flesh and given to us.

Me: Jesus, is both Son of God and Son of man!

As Son of God, Jesus was born of Mary, but

AS A SPIRITUAL LUMINOUS CHILD! 

Luke 1:And the angel answering, said to her:

The…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: carmel,

You said:

WHY, may I ask:

unto to us, a Son IS GIVEN?

WHY NOT, UNTO US A SON IS BORN?

 
It’s both.
Me, Lu I don’t know what you meant by BOTH.

Read what I said:

But again, the fact that it says “A CHILD….” is not just a reference to Jesus.

IT IS ALSO A REFERENCE TO HIS MOTHER MARY!

SHE WAS BORN FIRST. ‘AND THROUGH HER[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: LU……So Jesus was lying when he said (not me)…..“this is eternal life , that they might know “YOU”, the “ONLY” true GOD…….,

ACCORDING TO YOU,  he meant to say,  “US” the onLy true “GOD’S”.  

Me: Gene the above is only your corrupted carnal-minded understanding.

GOD HAS THE POWER TO BYLOCATE AND MULTIPLY HIMSELF AS MUCH AS HE P…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: God made “all” mankind in his “image”, 

Now, answer Please:

Gene, the Father has no image He is an invisible spirit!

NOW, WHO IS THE ONLY IMAGE OF GOD?

JESUS CHRIST

SO “ALL” MANKIND IS MADE IN THE IMAGE OF JESUS CHRIST BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

You: Jesus said (not me)…..“call “no man” your Father on earth ,one is your FATHER …[Read more]

Gene,

You: Berean…….Jesus was in the “likeness”, ie, “image” of God,

Read Gene, please:

Hebrews1:1Who being the brightness of his glory

WHAT GLORY Gene, THE FATHER’S GLORY.

, and the express image of his person,

WHAT EXPRESS IMAGE, Gene, THE FATHER’S IMAGE.

and upholding all things by the word of his power…

WHAT POUR Gene, THE F…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Jesus the man never preceded his birth on the earth in any form of existence,

Me: Just read the scripture hereunder and explain please:

Jude 1: 4For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto this judgment,) ungodly men, turning the grace of our Lord God into riotousness, and denying the ONLY SOVEREIGN…[Read more]