Hi Jodi,

You: born of the Spirit that descended upon him like a dove,

Me: I’m afraid Jodi your preaching is ONLY in relation to your carnal-minded understanding regarding Jesus’ entire DIVINE/HUMAN process. A process commenced at the very beginning John1:1-4.

In the above, YOU ARE FALSELY PREACHING THAT

JESUS WAS BORN OF THE SPIRIT AT THE…[Read more]

Hi, Berean,

You: Do you have any Bible verses to prove that
1) In the BEGINNING, the name of the Son of God was Jesus

Me: John 3:13 And no man hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended from heaven,

the Son of man who is in heaven. 

From the above, we are certain that Jesus, THE SON OF MAN, HUMAN,  pre-existed, and also, while He was o…[Read more]

DesireTruth

@ Carmel,

I realize I am joining this discussion late; however, the topic of the “trinity” has been one that has troubled me recently.

So I must begin by asking: do you believe our salvation is dependent upon believing the trinity?

No Not really! Read hereunder please.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, as to give his only beg…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: What a BEGINNING?

Before or when our World WAS created?

Or the BEGINNING OF the incarnated  SON OF GOD?

Me: THE VERY BEGINNING BEFORE ANYTHING WAS EVER CREATED!

You: If 1 , the Son WAS NOT in the flesh but in the form of God, AND HIS NAME WAS NOT JESUS BUT ” THE WORD OF GOD”

He was in the flesh and His name was Jesus, BUT…[Read more]

Hi Berean,

You: Of course the name of THE SON OF GOD “IN THE BEGINNING” was not Jesus, for Jesus is his name WHEN HE WAS MADE FLESH.

Berean, God all-knowing, Jesus, was A SON OF MAN from the beginning, to be clear,

THE EMBODIMENT OF GOD, THE ONLY IMAGE OF GOD, THE ONLY FORM AND SHAPE OF GOD; IN ONE GLORY WITH THE FATHER.UNKNOWN TO THE ENT…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Jesus did not inherit the nations until he returned to the Father </span>

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>on the the day Psalms 2 refers to, the day of his resurrection.</span>

Me: THAT’S ONLY YOUR UNDERSTANDING! WITH EVERY RESPECT!

Psalm 2 DOES NOT REFER TO JESUS’INHEIRTANCE ON HIS…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: Jesus is not the Father.

Me: WHERE DID I EVER SAY THAT PLEASE?

But to make you sure of WHAT I BELIEVE, read please:

JESUS IS OUR FATHER AND GOD FROM THE HUMAN SIDE POINT OF VIEW AS MUCH AS GOD THE FATHER IS OUR FATHER FROM THE SPIRIT SIDE POINT OF VIEW. NO?

GOD, THE FATHER IS SPIRIT!

GOD, THE SON IS BOTH SPIRIT AND…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: Jesus was always perfect.

Me:  Read Lu what I posted please:

Now THE SON OF MAN who died on the cross was PERFECT and IN ONE INSTANT, He was both DEAD and in full GLORY as

THE ONLY TRUE  GOD ON EARTH!

On the other hand, THE SON OF MAN who resurrected was NOT PERFECT AS ONLY GOD IS PERFECT,

I NEVER SAID THAT JESUS IS NOT P…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: Jesus rose on the third day.

Me: Now read the scriptures hereunder please:

Mark 9:31  And he taught his disciple, and said to them: The Son of man shall be betrayed into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed,

he shall rise again the third day.

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was in the whale’s belly…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: The Son of Man IS Jesus who before He became Jesus, the Son of Man (aka Son of David) was the only begotten Son of God, begotten before the ages, who was anointed to become flesh and suffer on the cross as the promised Messiah to take away our sins and then inherit the nations.

Me: Funny again, you mentioned Jesus’ death alright, b…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: Carmel,

Are you clear that the Son of Man did not inherit the nations before His crucifixion but instead after?

Just yes or no Carmel, please don’t make it complicated.

Me, Lu, you made me laugh!

It is you who made it complicated, by asking that kind of mysterious question.

What is the meaning of “THE SON OF MAN” for you?

Why d…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: Psalms 2 tells us that it is after the Son returns to the Father at the ascension when He inherits the nations and makes it clear that the Son did not already have them until then.

Me: What you posted is a clear reference to Jesus, the SON OF MAN,  “THE WORD” made flesh, Jesus’ human nature, who died on the cross.

Now immediately…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: Psalms 2 tells us that it is after the Son returns to the Father at the ascension when He inherits the nations and makes it clear that the Son did not already have them until then.</span>

Me: What you posted is a clear reference to Jesus, the SON OF MAN,  “THE WORD” made flesh, Jesus’ human nature, who…[Read more]

Hi Lu,

You: Jesus laid down His life for His sheep starting with the agreement to empty Himself and become a bondservant.

Me: Agree!

He took it up again when He ascended back to His Father and received all authority in heaven and on earth.

Not precise, I’m afraid!

Jesus received all authority on earth BEFORE GOING TO THE FATHER. HE LEFT…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN TO BE HONEST AND PRODUCE 

GENUINE SCRIPTURE

NOT YOUR CORRUPTED VERSION: READ:

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know you not,
that you are the temple of God,
and that THE SPIRIT OF GOD dwelleth in you?

Gene, YOU ARE A STAGNATED CORRUPTED CARNAL-MINDED PERSON, WITH EVERY RESPECT:

In the above Paul said:

YOU ARE THE TEMPLE…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

 LU……Yes the “Spirit” . Of the anointing, ie the Christo’s, ,  which is the Spirit of GOD .

You: “one God ‘IN” all and “Through” all.”  

It’s the same story, Gene, 

YOU ALWAYS PRODUCE YOUR OWN VERSION WITHOUT A HINT OF WHICH SCRIPTURE YOU ARE QUOTING. BY WHICH TASK, YOU MISGUIDE  WHOEVER IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SCRIPTURE,

NOW R…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

CARMEL…….Just produce “one” scripture that says,  “Jesus “pre-existed” as a live being before he existed on this earth” , or even more simple, 

He was alive before he was born on this earth,

  or any activity recorded in scriptures showing,  i mean clear activity, not scriptures you have to add , your own thoughts to try to force the…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Read this scripture please:

Judges 2:1And an angel of the Lord went up from Galgal to the place of weepers, and said:

I made you go out of Egypt, and have brought you into the land for which I swore to your fathers:
and I promised that I would not make void my covenant with you forever:

Now Answer please: 

WHO IS THIS ANGEL OF THE L…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

First and foremost read please again:

IN MY POSTS Nos. #941923, 4, and 5

I elaborated  regarding John17:1-3 AND FOR A REASON ONLY YOU KNOW,

you simply IGNORED THEM, NOW IN THOSE POSTS I ASKED BOTH YOU AND JODI,

WHERE WAS SATAN ON JESUS’DEATH? OR MORE PRECISELY

WHAT HAPPENED TO SATAN ON JESUS’DEATH ON THE CROSS?

WILL YOU  REMAI…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel…….You are one screwed up cookie, brother,  are you a Johovah wittness, they also believe that Jesus was a preexisting angel like you?

Me: Read and tell me what does the scripture hereunder say?

Galatians 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected;
but received me as an angel of God, even…[Read more]