Hi Gene,

You: Jodi……..It’seems not about the truth to them, it about their false religious ideas, their not even intellegent enough to understand  that what they say is completely again what scriptures in the old Testement says,

they create complete contradictions, in our scriptures,

And don’t even know  they are.

Me:

Hi Gene,

Yo…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: There is an argument over if Paul in Colossians 1 is speaking of 2 creations or just one. I have just shown how Paul is clearly referencing ONE creation. 

Me: I’ll put it this way to you:

Was Paul talking about

A NEW CREATION, SPIRITUAL and ETERNAL? 

THE OLD CREATION, CARNAL AND SPIRITUALLY DEAD? OR

BOTH THE NEW AND THE O…[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer, and ALL.

You: Jesus Christ is even called The Word of God.

Me: Now this is the vital question that seems well clear throughout this topic, and, humbly speaking except through my posts, no one ever seriously addressed, thus:

Why, and what is the origin that Jesus is not only even called  The Word of God, but since God is eternal,…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: God’s seed represents God’s Spirit.

Me: GOD’S SEED IS A SPIRIT! and THAT SPIRIT IS

“THE WORD” made Flesh, Jesus, the Son of Man.

God is a spirit, and all His attributes and tasks generally speaking are all

spirits!

Once God committed Himself to create, He created all that for us is the entire physical creation BY/IN/FOR in His…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the BEGINNING, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence (to be first). 

Me: In the above scripture, you gave importance to

TWO PARTICULAR TASKS DIRECTLY BY JESUS AS A SPIRIT,…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: Clarification, ????

I do not believe that Christ “came from below”. 

 Christ came directly FROM YHVH,

directly thus FROM HEAVEN ?????????????????

AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL Jodi:

YOU DON’T KNOW WHERE YOU STAND!

SIMPLY PUZZLED and CONFUSED! Read again Please:

DIRECTLY FROM YHVH!

directly thus FROM HEAVEN!

DO YOU KNOW WHAT “DIRE…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

You: I am 46 years old and unlike you and others,

my beliefs are not set in stone,

as I put scripture above my own current understanding.

Me: With every respect to you, Jodi,

this is the appropriate SCRIPTURE by which you confirm what you said above,

ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND IT! Read it please!

HUMLY SPEAKING, just to give you a…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

Made Flesh= The only begotten Son existing in the form of God emptied himself to come down to earth

finding himself in the uterus of Mary being made into a human of flesh.

Me: Abandon YOUR carnal-minded reasoning Jodi, BE SERIOUS, respect God’s SPIRITUAL tasks, and at least produce

THE PRECISE SCRIPTURE PLEASE!

When will you learn…[Read more]

Hi Jodi,

The Word= a pre-existing Jesus who is God’s only begotten Son existing in the form of God whose name is The Word because by his word in the beginning heaven and earth were created.

Me: You said that:

Whose name is The Word BECAUSE BY HIS WORD IN THE BEGINNING HEAVEN AND EARTH WERE CREATED!

Not quite the truth! I’m afraid!

Answer p…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

Me, Back to your post for the sake of “THE WORD” and ITS TRUTH!

You: Desire truth………Simple,

 you need to just believe what Jesus told us and you have your answer,  

Jesus said  (not me)…..“the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY WORDS, but the words of him who sent me”.  Simple as that, 

YES, Gene, you have your answer NOW, aft…[Read more]

Hi Jodi and Gene,

Me:  Answer,

If as you, Jodi WELL said that

 This Son of Man, where God promised to be a Father unto him and give him

an eternal kingdom,

HOW IS IT THAT THIS SUPPOSED ETERNAL KINGDOM PROMISED BY THE FATHER TO HIS SON,

THIS SON OF MAN,

WHO CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, John 3:13

AT THE VERY END IS GIVEN TO GOD,  TO BE
ALL  IN ALL…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Carmel…….You remind me of a tennis ball being bounced off  walls of deception,  saying I was not “quoting” the scriptures correctly is a lie,  and you well know that.

I am quoting them “exactly as they are written”,  in the king James bible.   

Because those scriptures go against you and your false teachings, is your problem no…[Read more]

Hi Desire Truth

You: @ Carmel,
For curiosity sake, what do you do for a living (if retired, what did you do prior) and what faith do you most identify with?

Not to sound like I am prying or to seem I am demanding of you information that I wouldn’t give.

For a living I am self employed running a home repair business, along with a side gig ma…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Desire Truth……..see what they do here, they force our text to say what in fact it doesen’t say or even hint at, by adding their own words to the text.

CARMEL SAID

39See my hands and feet, that it is I myself; handle, and see:

for a (NORMAL) spirit hath not flesh and bones,

as you see me to have.

40And when he had said this, h…[Read more]

Hi, Desire Truth,

You: @ Berean,

Since Jesus was with God at the foundation of the world and is the one God is speaking with, that would mean there were two separate beings of the “godhead” in heaven at creation. Having two beings does not support the monotheistic faith the Jews have? Deut 6:4, “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord”.…[Read more]

Hi, Desire Truth,

You: No one gave a concise answer to why John didn’t just say “Jesus” in the opening of the book, why use “word”.

Me: First and foremost, John’s Gospel is entirely spiritual, and one must be spiritually minded in order to understand it, never mind accepting it. Now in view of this, Jesus is a proper name, while the name “wor…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

You: Desire truth………Simple,  you need to just believe what Jesus told us and you have your answer,   Jesus said  (not me)…..“the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY WORDS, but the words of him who sent me”.  Simple as that,  those that believe Jesus know by Jesus’ own words, he, “himelf” is not the words of God himself, he was quoting as…[Read more]

Hi, Desire Truth,

You: I had some questions that started me on this journey: can anyone explain why John would call Jesus the “word” verses using his name directly? Why would John be so “cryptic” in the opening of the book; yet, use plain language in the rest?

Me: To me John is not that cryptic at all, for the simple reason that John, was AS…[Read more]

Hi Gene,

YOU: Carmel…….There is no sound teaching in you, you have been deceived for so long and trying to change what our Bible text says, so long  ,  I can honestly say that I have never seen anyone so screwed up as you are.  It may be because you actually believe you have the Spirit of truth “in” you , but no one with the “Spirit of truth”,  …[Read more]

Hi Proclaimer,

Me: WHO IS ETERNAL:

THE SON OF GOD,  JESUS, OF THE HOLY GHOST, A SPIRIT,  Genesis 1:2 OR

THE SON OF MAN, JESUS, “THE WORD” SPOKEN OF GOD, A SPIRIT, John6:63

THE NEXT ONE:

WHO WAS FIRST AS THE GENUINE PHYSICAL IMAGE OF GOD, between these two spirits

BEFORE ANYTHING WAS EVER CREATED!

You: Jesus Christ was begotten.[Read more]