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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote Keith, Jesus says that our God is also his God. Mike,I DISCUSSED THIS WITH YOU ALREADY ONCE !You are refering to : John 20:17 ……………I ascend to my Father and to your Father, to my God and your God. Now when Jesus said those words,HE WAS ONLY A MAN. HE WAS NOT YET ASCENDED IN THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.HE ALSO CONFIRMED THAT HE WOULD…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    .Quote Here's another, along the same lines:Acts 3:13 The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.  MIKE,HE SEVERED GOD: BY BEING HIS FLESH SUBSTANCE AND BECAME BOTH GOD AND MAN, ALMIGHTY GOD IN SPIRITUAL FLESH BODYPeace and love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote You got it! Jesus has a lot of worshippers! WJ,AND HOW!!!HE'S GOT THE MOST OF ALL CHRISTIANS.Peace and love in Jesus   OUR GOD, OUR FATHER, IN MYSTICAL BODY, BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH, BOTH GOD AND MAN.Charles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2013,17:23)Quote The right question to ask is what was he before he became flesh ??? Terraricca,No,WE all know that the WORD was a spirit. FIRST OF ALL IT WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT WHICH CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER AND  ENTERED MARY’S WOMB NOT THE WORD, JESUS.THE WORD, JESUS’S SPIRIT PROCEEDED FORTH FROM THE FATHER TO CREATE ALL&…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote SO THIS SCRIPTURE AS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHRIST CREATION AT ALL BUT WITH HIS COMING IN THE FLESH . Terraricca,OK! John 1: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,Now reflect John didn't say the word became manSO:EXPLAIN HOW HE WAS MADE FLESH!!!AND HOW HE DWELT AMONG US!!! OBVIOUS AS MAN!!!Peace and love in…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote  it is clear that this does not include God himself, “who put everything under Christ”. WJ,HOW ABOUT THIS ONE AS WELL? John 12: 32And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL THINGS to myself. Peace and Love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    t8, In the beginning of 1 Corinthians 11,  Paul was full of praise to  the obedience, and respect his people maintained in their work. Then he shifted his mode of speech, with the statement: But I would have you know, to reveal further fundamental basis, regarding the distinctions, and differences between the man and the woman, which the church m…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote It doesn't actually mean that he has lived forever t8, 1John 1That which was from the beginning, THE WORDwhich we have heard, JESUSwhich we have seen with our eyes, JESUSwhich we have looked upon, JESUSand our hands have handled, JESUSof the word of life: JESUS2 For the life was manifested; BECAME MANand we have seen and do bear witness, and…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote so what you telling me ,is that Jesus did not exist prior to his birth from Mary Terraricca,HE EXISTED AS A SPIRIT, THE WORD, ETERNALLY ONE WITH GOD.HE LEFT GOD, IN ORDER FOR THE FATHER, THROUGH THE HOLY GHOST, TO CREATE ALL THROUGH HIM!John 1:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I PROCEEDED FORTH  (NOT…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote Nor do I think Adam is the first ever soul, since God Himself also has a soul – which assumably existed long before Adam's soul existed. Mike,The soul is a creature.It is created by GOD through Jesus' spirit,to act as a mediator BETWEEN GOD AND MANKIND.THE SOUL IS THE ONLY HOUSE OF GOD!!!GOD  IS ONLY A SPIRIT BEING!!!Peace and love in…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 1 month ago

    Quote And it seems you believe that Jesus did lots of changing. Mike,Not Jesus!Jesus' spirit,the WORD, God's substance, did a lot of changes in order for God to create all by Him. So there isn't any thing in all existence without Jesus' versatile spirit in it as a mediator between God and all His entire creatures,the only life source. John 1:4 In…[Read more]

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    Quote Jesus is the Mediator BETWEEN God and mankind.Mike,Reflect: Jesus( AS A SPIRIT) is the Mediator BETWEEN God and mankind.( FLESH BEINGS)SINCE GOD, THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IN US CHRISTIANS!DO YOU AGREE IN THE ABOVE?PLEASE!Explain BOTH if you DO and if you DON'T!!!  Peace and love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 2 months ago

    Ed,ALSO:THE SON'S SPIRIT ,THE WORD, LEFT THE FATHER AND BY HIM, AND IN HIM, THE FATHER CREATED ALL, AND THE END PURE PRODUCT WAS MARY'S 100% FLESH BODY,THE EX SON'S SPIRIT,IN ORDER FOR THE FATHER TO CONCEIVE HIS SON AND BECOMEJESUS AS A VISIBLE SUBSTANCE,THEREFORE HE WAS 100% A FLESH COVER!!!  JESUS AS A SOUL WAS 100% THE HOLY GHOSTJESUS AS A…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote That doesn't change anything.Edj,I'm afraid I have to repeat the same question!Now read hereunder and explain how you concluded that Jesus was 50% God, 5o% human!!!Colossians 1:9 For in him dwelleth all the FULNESS of the Godhead bodilyPeace and love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote But she did not have any connection in producing the living childTerraricca,How do you concluded,that Mary HAD NO CONNECTION???Peace and love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote like her chromosomes ,none of hers was used Terraricca,WHERE DID JESUS GOT HIS CHROMOSOMES FROM???Peace and love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote Jesus mother was human. (Jesus was: 50% God, 50% human)Edj,Now read hereunder and explain how you concluded that Jesus was 50% God, 5o% human!!!Colossians 1:9 For in him dwelleth all the FULNESS of the Godhead bodilyPeace and love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote to receive a flesh cover Terraricca,EXACTLY:So if Jesus had a flesh cover, which I agree, WHO WAS IN JESUS COVER???Peace and love in JesusCharles

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 2 months ago

    Quote   I am the soul. t8,In the previous post you also said:Quote I control my body. I am the head of my own body. Christ is the head of me. NOW REFLECT:You confirmed that you are A SOUL!!!You confirmed that you ,SOUL control your body,You confirmed that you,SOUL, are the head of your own body.You also affirmed that christ is the head of your…[Read more]

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    Quote And just in case you didn't know, “The Son of Man” is Jesus. So GOD doesn't change, and HE isn't “The Son of Man”.Edj,WRONG:JESUS IS NOT SON OF MANBUT SON OF MAN AND SON OF GOD!!!OK???THAT MEANS THAT GOD IS NOT MAN, BUT MAN/GOD IN JESUS' SOULTHAT MEANS THAT GOD IS NOT SON OF MAN,BUT SON OF MAN AND SON OF GOD IN JESUS' SOUL.SO:”God is not a…[Read more]

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