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    Hi Jodi

    You: Hi Carmel,

    NO, what you say is all wrong.

    Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Ja…[Read more]

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    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Hi Jodi,</span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>You: When Jesus was baptized he then was born of God’s Spirit!</span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Berean: There is a difference between </span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>being born of the Spirit and </span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>“the spirit of the LOR…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: First thing to recognize

    is Jesus suffered and then entered into his glory when he rose from the dead

    NOT QUITE PRECISE Jodi, I’m afraid!

    When we read scripture we become aware that Jesus, THE SON OF MAN from the time He came into this world experienced not just one GLORY when He rose from the dead, SPIRITUALLY DEAD, FOR OUR S…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: John DIDN’T KNOW that he needed to baptize Jesus, 

    Me: Jodi, you are excellent when it comes to your CORRUPTED ANALYZES! 

    Scripture:

    John 1:23 He said: I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness,
    make straight the way of the Lord,
    as said the prophet Isaias.

    Matthew 11:9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet?

    yea…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: The glory that Jesus received upon rising from the dead is glory written by the prophets since the world began. 

    This is the glory that Jesus asked for that was of God for this Son of Man from even before the world began. 

    Me: Scripture:

    John17:1 THESE things Jesus spoke, and lifting up his eyes to heaven, he said:

    Father, t…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: Carmel, in the OT God is the FATHER of Israel. Jesus was in the temple hearing and asking questions that all related to God their Father and His people.

    Me: FROM GOD’S PERSPECTIVE FOR SURE

    BUT ONLY IN RELATION TO THEIR SOULS, AS THE FATHER IS SPIRIT, and flesh counts for nothing when it comes to God’s own work, it is His spi…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: God indeed sent His Son into the world,
    Jesus tells you directly when he was sent,
    Me: THAT’S RIGHT Jodi, READ HEREUNDER WHAT I TOLD YOU  IN #942956

    Me: Luke 2:48 And seeing him, they wondered. And his mother said to him: Son, why hast thou done so to us? behold thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. 49And he said to t…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    Think about it Jesus said he was “dead” and am now alive for evermore.   If he were dead how could he raise himself up? 

    Me: Gene, YOU ARE A GENIUS!

    SO ACCORDING TO YOU, JESUS HAD ONLY A FLESH BODY!

    WHAT HAPPENED TO JESUS’ SOUL, THE SON OF GOD, THE HOLY GHOST, ATTRIBUTED TO JESUS Gene?

    JESUS’ SOUL IN THE HOLY GHOST DIDN’T DIE! …[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: That a Son of Man would return in the glory of our Father and destroy the wicked and reward believers. 

    Me: READ YOUR OWN WORDS ABOVE Jodi, AGAIN:
    That a Son of Man would “RETURN” in the glory of our Father
    CAN YOU SEE IT?
    What does the word  “RETURN” tell you?
    IT CLEARLY TELLS YOU THAT JESUS

    PRE-EXISTED AND RETURNED TO WHERE HE…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    and in this case Gene, and whoever is in harmony in any way with you:

    First and foremost,

    Mostly, I am going to post what I already posted in page 1180 read please:

    You: Jesus was a mortal man on earth.

    No, Jodi Jesus is not A MORTAL HUMAN BEING LIKE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE!

    JESUS, PRE-EXISTED BEFORE ANYTHING WAS EVER CREATED, AS…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi,

    You: Here are some Yes or No questions for you,

    Is the man of flesh Jesus of Nazareth the fulfillment of YHVH’s WORD 

    when he received the Spirit of Wisdom,

    Understanding, Council and Might, Knowledge and Fear of YHVH?

    Me: Hereunder are sufficient scriptures as answers to all your questions!

    Me: Luke 2:48 And seeing him, they won…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 1 year, 8 months ago

    Hi Gene,

    You: But , YOU SAID , IT WAS God who tempts us.   Proven wrong again Carmel !

    Me: WHERE IN MY POST DID I EVER SAY OR EVEN MEANT THAT PLEASE?

    Temptations are incessant, and they are PERMITTED by God,

    AS IN THE CASE OF JOB,

    to justify that we are God’s children in Christ and SPIRITUALLY destroy the devil’s work THAT COMES FROM THE…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 1 year, 8 months ago

    HI Gene,

    Carmel…….The correct way that scripture should be written, and understood is this way,  “and let us not be lead into temptation, but deliver us from the evil”. Why, because other scripture says,  “GOD TEMPTS “NO” MAN.”    IF  you were of the truth you would have known that.  

    I REALIZE YOUR MIND MAYBE CAN’T UNDERSTAND THAT,  BUT N…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic Free Will? in the forum Truth or Tradition 1 year, 8 months ago

     

    Hi Gene,

    YOU: Proclaimer……The Spirit of God is the will of God, not your or my  Will ,  remwmber what Jesus said when he told us how to pray (not me)…..”Thy kingdom come “THY WILL” be done , ob earth as in heaven”.  

    Me: .”Thy kingdom come “THY WILL” be done , ob earth as in heaven”. 

    I see; so you Gene, SINCE THOUGH YOU BELIEVE THAT G…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene, and ALL,

    Continue,

    You: THE PRINCIPLE OF BEING “IN” , SOMEONE.

    when we become one with God the Father and Jesus their words remain in us, that is what makes us , “ONE” WITH THEM.”  ,they exist “in” us by their word and we exist in them by our words also.

    Me: Let’s carry on reading

    John15:7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in y…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    Continue:

    You: THE PRINCIPLE OF BEING “IN” , SOMEONE. 

    ME: Let’s read again

    John 15:1 I AM the TRUE vine; and my Father is the husbandman.
     2 Every branch IN ME,
    that beareth not fruit,

    HE WILL TAKE IT AWAY: 

    and everyone that beareth fruit, he will purge it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 

    Physically speaking, Jesus a…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene, and ALL,

    You: THE PRINCIPLE OF BEING “IN” , SOMEONE. 

    Your stubbornness is TERRIBLE!

    Isaiah 55:8

    8For my thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

    9For as the heavens are exalted above the earth, so are my ways exalted above your ways, and my thoughts above your thoughts.

    DID YOU GET THAT Gene?

    You said…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    YOU: To all……..Jesus said,  (not me),…..

    “the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY words, but the words of him who sent me”.  

    ME: Gene, The above are not SCRIPTURE BUT YOUR OWN TWISTED WORDS, which I already made clear to you MORE THAN ONCE, and you never SPECIFICALLY denied.

    So let’s start with the above “TWISTED” words of yours![Read more]

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    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>Hi Gene,</span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>YOU: To all……..Jesus said,  (not me),…..</span>

    <span style=”color: #0000ff;”>“the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY words, but the words of him who sent me”.  </span>

    ME: Gene, The above are not SCRIPTURE BUT YOUR OWN TWISTED WORDS, which I already made clear to y…[Read more]

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    Hi Jodi and All,

    You: There is argument over if a god was morphed into a virgin’s womb becoming flesh like some pagan god or

    Me:  Jodi, only you and Gene, and by the look of it, also Desire Truth, conclude such a hypothesis.

    You: God’s word became true in the man of flesh Jesus of Nazareth.

    Me: Jodi, may I ask a super simple question, for the…[Read more]

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