Quote ..Jesus said in Revelations, i was dead and am alive for evermore but you don't believe he was dead right? So i guess Jesus Lied to us then Right Gene,I SAID THAT JESUS DIDN'T DIE LIKE WE DO!NOT THAT HE DIDN'T DIE!Scripture is clear about that!Jesus is different from us,in every sense,although he was human!Peace and love in…[Read more]

Quote I worship the God OF Christ, Mike,JESUS HAS NO GOD ANYMORE!JESUS HAD HIS GOD TILL HE RESURRECTED, AND AFTERWORDS HE ASCENDED IN THE STATE OF HIS GOD,(SPIRIT) AND OUR GOD (CARNAL)IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO TELL US HOW YOU WORSHIP THIS SPIRIT GOD OF YOURS, AND IN THE SAME TIME, IN THE TRUTH  ALSO:WHEN I PRAY TO JESUS I KNOW IN TRUTH THAT…[Read more]

Quote ]My Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. (John 15:1-2)     Edj,REGARDING THE ABOVE, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF YOU WERE TO DISCERN:WHAT ACTUALLY ARE BOTH BRANCHES WHICH JESUS REFERRED TO!NOW:Again:All yours e…[Read more]

Quote In my mind, that EQUATES the way Jesus died with the way the rest of us die.Mike,You look at scriptures only literally.Scripture is God's word,therefore spiritual!Jesus is also the son of man, and the son of GodSo when you read scriptures,especially the NEW TESTAMENT you have to reflect in order to discern the spiritual understanding as…[Read more]

Quote It was through Satan's plan that God became man,Edj,All yours enjoy!Lucifer opted to be the direct contender for the achievement of humanity. Therefore a negative God and be like the Most High.Matthew 16:22And Peter taking him, began to rebuke him, saying: Lord, be it far from thee, this shall not be unto thee. 23Who turning, said to Peter:…[Read more]

Quote Through death,Mike,THROUGH DEATH IS NOT A CLEAR PROOF THAT JESUS DIED!DEATH IS SATAN:THROUGH SATAN JESUS GLORIFIED.THROUGH ENCOUNTERING SATAN ON THE CROSS JESUS GLORIFIEDQuote Through death, Jesus gave us the right to become sons of God, “born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.”  (John 1:…[Read more]

Quote Charles, it is not my job to prove a negative.  It is YOUR job to prove the positive.Mike,Hereunder is the POSITIVE:John 12:24 Amen, amen I say to you, unless the grain of wheat falling into the ground die,25Itself remaineth alone. Quote Job 6:6 doesn't say anything about death at all.  Nor do I see any indication that it is about Jesus.  …[Read more]

Quote  Jesus does.  Satan doesn't. Mike, Satan is as well.God doesn't plan.He just act, and fulfills through all his creatures' will without they themselves realize that it was HIM within them that they did all His will and not theirs!It was through Satan's plan that God became man, always believing, and still believes,that he would achieve m…[Read more]

Quote Evolution is amazing. No need for a creator at all.t8,Is there an evolution without a creator for a believer?Peace and love in JesusCharles

Quote .Jesus is of the HUman Kind,  and has recieved God's  Sprit in him Gene,Wrong!Jesus is God's own spirit!Jesus is the word made flesh!Jesus is the Godhead in flesh body!Jesus is Almighty God glorified John 13:31 When he therefore was gone out, Jesus said: Now is the Son of man glorified and GOD IS GLORIFIED IN HIM32If God be glorified in h…[Read more]

Quote Try again.  (Oh, and I only need ONE scripture.  I don't need all the rhetoric.  Thanks.)Mike,I am afraid YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE TO CONTRADICT THAT SCRIPTURE IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT JESUS DIED LIKE WE DO.I REPEAT: Job 6:6 Or can an unsavoury thing be eaten, that is not seasoned with salt? OrCAN A MAN TASTE THAT WHICH WHEN TASTED BRINGETH DEATH? [Read more]

Quote Okay.  Then show me ONE of those scriptures, that say Jesus died in a different way than all other men die.    Mike,DO WE TASTE DEATH?OR  DO WE SIMPLY DO NOT TASTE DEATH BUT WE DIENOW READ:DRB Job 6:6 Or can an unsavoury thing be eaten, that is not seasoned with salt? OrCAN A MAN TASTE THAT WHICH WHEN TASTED BRINGETH DEATH? DEFINITELY NOT…[Read more]

Quote Why are you people alway trying to Make Jesus different all the time then we are. Gene,So you think Jesus is not different than we are?HOW COULD HE BE THE MESSIAH THAN, IF HE IS NOT DIFFERENT? JESUS WAS LIKE US. BUT NOT IN THE SAME SUBSTANCE AS OURS.SO EVEN HIS FLESH AND BLOOD, WAS DIFFERENT!!!NOW READ AND EXPLAIN:YOU ARE FROM BENEATH.I AM…[Read more]

Quote Charles, to me it seems like Paul is equating the death of Christ with the death all men die.  I see no hint of any difference between the death Jesus died, and the death the rest of us die……… do you? Mike,TO YOU IT SEEMS!!!NO TO ALL OF US CORRUPTED MORTAL CREATURES IT SEEMS THAT JESUS DIED THE SAME DEATH.BUT THERE'S NO EVIDENCE CLEAR…[Read more]

Quote The flesh diedKathy,Jesus died for us.For our understanding!The flesh didn't actually die!Jesus' flesh never initiated any corrosion.Jesus glorified immediately on death.Jesus' flesh continued the process of spiritualization.Paul said that Jesus only tasted death.Which means that he didn't die like we do!Hebrews 1:11They shall perish, but…[Read more]

Quote THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING:Terraricca,THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING: HAS A PARADOXICAL MEANING!Peace and love in JesusCharles

Quote But Paul says that Jesus tasted death for all of us. Mike,I agree,but what bothers me, WHY PAUL DIDN'T USE A CLEAN PHRASE SUCH AS HE DIED LIKE US OR HE DIED ALSO,INSTEAD HE ALWAYS USED A TERM TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO MEANINGS.FOR INSTANCE:HE TASTED DEATH, IN NO WAY IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH THAT HE DIED THE SAME DEATH AS OURS!WHEN YOU TASTE SOMETHING…[Read more]

Quote  John1:4. FOR **IN HIM** WAS LIFE.  Wakeup,The above is the best way of discovering the truth, and that's what I  always expected from someone on heaven net.Instead they opted for confrontation, which is not for the love of Jesus Christ, the truthNow you said: concentrate which I already did regarding that statement.But to be honest si…[Read more]

Quote What you are saying sounds Gnostic?2Besee,THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING:SO JESUS HAD FLESH! JESUS WAS THE WORD MADE FLESH,THE TRIUNE GOD IN JESUS, THE GODHEAD BODILY.THEREFORE JESUS' FLESH WAS UNIQUE! IT WAS THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER. THEREFORE GOD’S AND NON MORTAL,AT ALL TIMES TO MAINTAIN ETERNAL LIFE.IF I ASKED YOU IF JESUS' F…[Read more]

Quote Pay attention to the words “again” and “no longer”, Charles.  If Jesus didn't truly die, then those words could not have been written about him.Mike,THE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING:SO JESUS’ FLESH WAS NOT FLESH LIKE OURS, BUT SPIRIT IN ITSELF.AND THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE!SO HIS FLESH NEVER DIED LIKE OURS! BUT CONTINUED INTO SP…[Read more]