carmel replied to the topic Non-trinity believing church? in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 10 months ago
Quote For one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus 942767,We all know that GOD IS THE MOST MYSTERIOUS, INVISIBLE, UNKOWN,SPIRIT BEING. AND THE ONLY PROOF OF HIS EXISTENCE FAITHWe also know that MAN IS THE MOST TRUE,OBVIOUS, VISIBLE, KNOWN, CARNAL, BEING. NO NEED OF PROOF FOR HIS EXISTENCE. NOW THE TROUBLE THOUGH IS TO…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
EdjI wanted to tell you,regarding the encounter of Jesus with Satan on the cross,That Satan realized at the very end that, IT WAS AGAINST HIS WISH TO TAKE JESUS' SOUL.HE WAS AWARE OF HIS DEFEAT AFTER ALL.BUT SINCE HE WAS THE POWER OF DEATH.IT WAS HIS PROCEDURE, TO ENTER JESUS' SOUL,IF HE DIDN'T, SOMETHING THAT HE NEVER WANTED TO, WOULD OBVIOUSLY…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote A paradox is where there is seemingly contradiction in terms, yetBOTH parts are actually true; this is the meaning of “a paradox”.Edj,EXCELLENT!AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO MIKE!THAT WHEN JESUS WAS DEAD ON THE CROSS HE WAS ALSO ALIVE!SO HE DIDN'T DIE LIKE WE DO!Edj,concentrate on the word: mediator JESUS WAS AND IS A UNIQUE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote the firstborn over all creation. Terraricca,THAT'S CORRUPTION! IN ORDER TO CLAIM THAT JESUS WAS CREATED FIRST!THIS IS THE TRUTH! THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURETHE ABOVE MEANS THAT JESUS' SPIRIT GAVE BIRTH TO EVERY FIRST CREATURE EVER CREATED. since all by him, and all in himHIS SPIRIT EXISTED ETERNALLY WITHIN THE FATHER!HE CAME FORTH AS…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote First and Last are used for one that is first and last in a set. Kerwin,That is irrelevant!IT IS STILL A PARADOX! EVERYONE OF THOSE PARADOXES HAVE ITS PARTICULAR MEANING.MOSES, WHICH WAS THE MESSIAH FOR CARNAL CREATURES,AND ALSO REPRESENTED JESUS, APART THAT HE WAS HIS SPIRIT, WAS ALSO FIRST AND LAST WHICH YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT!In fact m…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote I do not except paradoxes in the gospelKerwin,We all have a free will,but we must not stop searching for the truth,so if you are stuck with that kind of concept,you are already a failure unless you verify every possibility.I am sure of it since :all in him, all by him, and all for himAnd here are some which you should not ignore since they…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 20 2013,10:37)Mike, I MUST make it abundantly clear that any attempt to fully understand God's nature in purely worldly terms is an exercise in arrogant futility. Why futile? Perhaps for somewhat the same reasons that a goldfish would undoubtedly FLUNK TRIGONOMETRY. So I beleive THAT IT IS A DISRESPECT, AN INSULT, AN…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote I HOPE YOU DO NOT RUN AWAY Terraricca,Did you ever realize that the Bible designates each of the three persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) as being Lord and God.? Peace and love in JesusCharles
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote Scripture does not answer how Jesus was conceived a human Kerwin,FIRST, I SENT THAT POST BY MISTAKE! You might have noticed! Luke 1:And the angel answering, said to her: The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the most High shall overshadow thee. And therefore also the Holy which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2013,10:05)carmel,Quote JESUS THE WORD NEVER HAD A CARNAL FATHER.1) A human is conceived when a male and female gamete unite.2) A human is conceived when an parent embryo splits off a child embryo.3) A new combined human body is formed when to embryos combine.4) A new combined human body is formed when a partheonogenic…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote I too believe that the Father and the Son are TWO individual beings – not two “persons in one being”. Mike,I'm afraid you are not sure of what you're saying:The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit have both an individual function,and a triune function in one instant!When Jesus was in the world he was one being A MAN, but in fact he was t…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote Jesus came in the flesh, just as every other being has done.Kerwin, NOT EXACTLY:JESUS THE WORD NEVER HAD A CARNAL FATHER.JESUS' FATHER WAS GOD THE MOST PURE SPIRIT! THE CREATOR !SO JESUS ALTHOUGH HE WAS IN FLESH THE SON OF MAN!HE WAS ALSO IN SPIRIT! THE SON OF GODTWO NATURES BOTH OF GOD'S SUBSTANCETHE FLESH COUNTS FOR NOTHING FOR THE WORD…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote He agrees with me that they are two individual beings in this quote:Lightenup,BUT STILL ONE SPIRIT.STILL ONE GOD IN THE SAME INSTANT.WHILETHE FATHERTHE SONAND THE HOLY SPIRITFUNCTION INDIVIDUALLY IN THE SAME TIME THEY FUNCTION AS ONE.LIKE OUR GALAXYTHERE ARE MANY INDIVIDUAL PLANETS,STARS AND MOONS AND SO ON WHICH FUNCTION DIFFERENTLY,…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote ALTHOUGH ADAM WAS EVIDENTLY ALIVE IN THE FLESH BODY, IN FACT HE WAS DEAD IN HIS SPIRIT! THEREFORE ALSO DEAD IN THE FLESH BODY! IN THAT SAME INSTANT![/Mike,Which part is not in scripture?When Adam sinned:ALTHOUGH ADAM WAS EVIDENTLY ALIVE IN THE FLESH BODY, SO: Adam was alive in his flesh body. NO?IN FACT HE WAS DEAD IN HIS SPIRIT! Ad…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 17 2013,09:25)Quote There are a couple ways to answer your question – and both end up with a DIRECT answer of “YES”.then he died within the very day he ate of the fruit – from God's point of view.Mike,So:ADAM DIED FROM THE MOMENT HE ATE OF THE FRUIT: FROM GOD'S POINT OF VIEWNOW SATAN SAID TO EVE , THAT THEY WILL NOT DIE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote If I don't see that one scripture (all alone and by itself), I won't bother reading your response at all Mike,I know how you are : BEATENand that’s the only way to defend yourself since you only believe in a LITERAL CHILDISH scripture.From the other hand, as I said that applies to me also, and since there’s no scriptures which in full…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote You say “you will continue on” proves Jesus died differently than the rest of us. I surely don't see those words.Mike,See it this way:Jesus' death was not the END but THE NEW BEGINNING!Jesus' death was the recreation of the NEW SPIRITUAL CREATION. BY ELIMINATING THE SPIRIT OF DEATH THROUGH HIS UNIQUE DEATH!SO THE SPIRIT OF DEATH NEVER F…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote ONLY WHEN GOD ALLOW HIM TO DO SO, AS MANIFESTED IN JOB!Mike,That's my complete sentence:Now read: job 1:12 Then the Lord said to Satan: Behold, all that he hath is in thy hand: only put not forth thy hand upon his person. And Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord. YOU KNOW THE REST! NOW THIS IS IMPORTANT READ:But thou hast moved…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote There will be a new heavens, and a new earth, because the old ones will pass away, right? When those things do pass away, will Jesus pass away with them – or will he “continue on”? Hebrews 1:11……………….They shall perish, but thou shalt continue:12 And as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: but thou art…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years, 11 months ago
Quote When did Satan, one of God's creations, ever have mastery over God? Mike,ARE YOU ADMITTING THAT JESUS IS GOD AT LAST?ONLY WHEN GOD ALLOW HIM TO DO SO, AS MANIFESTED IN JOB! SYMBOLICALLY JESUS!ON THE CROSS JESUS BECAME A SINFUL BEING FOR US PURPOSELY IN ORDER TO PERMIT SATAN ACCOMPLISH HIS PROCEDURE DEATH AND THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS,JESUS…[Read more]
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