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    Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2013,02:15)Quote  Please do “EXPAND ON THIS FURTHER”;    Edj,I am posting 13:31 FIRST!31When he therefore was gone out, Jesus said:Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him.So through the process of  glorifying the Son by the Father through the Holy Spirit, LIKEWISE, GOD ALSO WOULD BE GLORIFIED! THE…[Read more]

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    Quote We do what he says. We believe what he taught us.  Mike,I AM AFRAID THAT YOUR OWN WORDS CONTRADICT YOU:WE AS GENTILES, NOT JEWS!THE ONLY WAY TO PLEASE THE FATHER  IS TO PLEASE JESUS CHRISTTHE ONLY WAY TO PRAISE THE FATHER IS TO PRAISE JESUS CHRISTTHE ONLY WAY TO LOVE THE FATHER IS TO LOVE JESUS CHRISTTHE ONLY WAY TO BELEIVE IN THE FATHER I…[Read more]

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    Quote YOU HAVE NOT ANSWERED MY QUESTION ,BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW;Terraricca,I RESPECT YOUR INTELIGENCE!Quote YOU DO NOT PRAY TO THE HOLY SPIRIT Matthew12:32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man,   A PERSONit shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, ALSO A PERSON SINCE JESUS COMPARED HIM WITH A…[Read more]

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    Quote the world hath not known thee  Jb2u,What does your words above say?They say the world has not known you UP TO THAT MOMENT IN TIME! OK?NOW THE APPOSTLES KNEW HIM ONLY BECAUSE HE MANIFESTED GOD'S ATTRIBUTES TO THEM!BUT ONLY THEM, AND THEY WERE ALSO NOT OF THE WORLDGOD WAS UNKNOWN AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN THE ENTIRE WORLD !GOD OF THE WORLD…[Read more]

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    Quote For example, can you list just ONE scripture that supports your understanding that Jesus has taken on “the state of the Father”?Mike,I will post as you suggested!ONE AT A TIME!BUT I WILL POST ACCORDING TO WHAT I BELEIVE IS THE APPROPRIATE ONE, IN THE APPROPRIATE TIME, AND THE APPROPRIATE WAY, TO LEAD OTHERS TO WHAT I BELEIVE IS THE…[Read more]

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    Quote where is it written : “in one instant “????and what is it the glory of the father and what is the glory of the son ????if you can not answer this your faith is null Terraricca,I HAVE BEEN DOING WHAT YOU ASKED AT LEAST FOR THESE LAST TWO YEARS THROUHGOUT MY POSTSFor now I am posting scriptures which DEMONSTRATES WHAT YOU ASK, and I give you time to…[Read more]

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    Quote He is, after all, the second most powerful being in existence,MIke,WITH EVERY RESPECT:JESUS CHRIST, THE WORD MADE FLESH, GOD IN FLESH, IS THE MOST POWERFULL BEING IN ALL EXISTENCEALMIGHTY GOD WAS NEVER AS RICH AS HE IS NOW:BUT THROUGH JESUS CHRIST:ONLY ON THE LAST DAY ALMIGHTY GOD WOULD BE:ALL IN ALL, AND ALSO THROUGH JESUS CHRIST'S BODY…[Read more]

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    Quote And aren't we suppose to glorify our God in all of our actions, just like Jesus did?  (1 Corinthians 10:31)Mike,you agreed that the FATHER GLORIFIED HIS SON, AND VICE VERSA:   IN ONE INSTANT WHEN, FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST GOD/MAN,GOD IN FLESH: ALMIGHTY GOD GLORIFIED YOU! MIKE, OR ANY OTHER HUMAN FILTHY, CORRUPTED, MORTAL FLESH AND B…[Read more]

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    Quote but, even in light of Jesus telling you that the ONLY true GOD is His Father, you still put your faith in a belief that is OPPOSITE of what JESUS actually says???Jbtu, YOU HAD ISOLATED an AMBIGUOUS VERSEWHY NOT ANALYZE ALL THAT PARAGRAPH IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH WHAT JESUS WAS REERRING TOTHE FACT THAT THROUGH THE SAME STATEMENT, JESUS DECLARED…[Read more]

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    Quote In the state of his Father”?     What if “ascend to” simply means “ascend to”?  Then what?Mike,What if “ascend to” in that particular verse means both in the state of the Father, and also went up in heaven”?THEN WHAT?HOW ABOUT ALL OF US IN, and FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS, WHO IS INTERESTED IN THIS PARICULAR EVENT DISCUSS IT TO ESTABLISH SOME TR…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2013,10:19)Quote Does He have a God of His own?Mike,YES GOD ALMIGHTY HAS HIS OWN PARTICULAR ,SPIRIT PROPERTY ,BUT GLORIFIED IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH GOD BEING ,WHO IS KNOWN BY US IN GOD’S TERMS  AS  SON OF GOD WELL?THE FATHER CALLED HIS SON GOD:HEBREWS 1:8 But to the Son: YOUR THRONE,O GODSO IF JESUS IS HIS SON, AND…[Read more]

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    Quote was he truly a man or only part mant8,DEFINITELY HE WAS FULLY MAN!Right now I am discussing JESUS' RESERRUCTION ON THIS THREAD,AND IT GIVES PROOF THAT JESUS WAS FULLY MAN:SO IF YOU WANT TO JOIN IN IT'S UP TO YOU!Peace and love in JesusCharles

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    Quote  No, he was the SON OF God in the flesh. Mike,ARE YOU CONFIRMING THAT THERE IS:A GODA GOD IN FLESHTHE SON OF GODAND THE SON OF GOD IN FLESH????Peace and love in JesusCharles

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    Quote Jhn 20:17   Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my FatherMarty,It would be very interesting, if you were to support your conclusion, not just say so!Quote but you cannot state that it means that in these scriptures:AFTER ALL YOU ALSO CANNOT STATE THAT IT MEANS NOT WHAT I STATED UNLESS YOU GIVE PROOF! I AM SURE…[Read more]

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    Quote Have you not read that Jesus can be in us and God can be in us?t8,I think I have posted enough posts to make everybody aware what my knowledge is regarding WHO EBIDES IN USScripture states that the Holy Spirit is in us and through Him we could become ONE LIKE CHRIST Quote Likewise if Christ is in us we are not Christ.THAT'S YOUR POOR…[Read more]

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    Quote It is amazing to me how, in the process of trying to convince us that Jesus IS God, Trinitarians often use wording that clearly distinguishes Jesus as someone other than God.Mike,It is you that cannot see:HOW MANY TIMES IN YOUR LIFE YOU READ THAT THE WORD IS GOD THE WORD WAS MADE FLESHTHE WORD IS JESUS CHRISTSO YOU ARE RIGHT THAT JESUS IS…[Read more]

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    carmel replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 12 years, 10 months ago

    Quote Thanks for respecting the rules of this thread.Lightenup,I will do so regarding the videos.You are aware that I am  trinitarian!I am not so just because my parents brought me up!I reflected and still reflecting in order to discover what scripture demonstrates regarding this unfathomable mystery,and in the same time there's enough evidence…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ May 07 2013,12:24)Quote (Ed J @ May 06 2013,17:03)Hi T8, What I illustrate here is that the concept of “The Trinity” isto narrow a scope when defining the actions of “GOD”.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J. The concept of the Trinity is false.QUOTE]The concept of the Trinity is false. t8,What makes you…[Read more]

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    Quote But the reason I've committed myself to these things is because they are the things taught in the scripturesMike,They are the things taught in the scriptures different in many churches? WHY?Quote 1.  The Word OF God Almighty cannot possibly BE the Almighty God he is the Word OF, right?In the moment you die, which one will be Mike? Mike the…[Read more]

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    Quote According to the order you suggest here, the Father glorifies the son and then the son returns the glory.t8,FIRST AND FORMOST:I SUGGESTED NOTHING.THE SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR ENOUGH BUT:WITH EVERY RESPECTSINCE WE ARE ALL HUMANSTHAT'S WHAT YOUR CORRUPT MINDED MENTALITY, INTELIGENCE, WORLDLY WISDOM TELLS YOU!READ AGAIN:GLORIFY YOUR SON, THAT YOUR…[Read more]

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