Quote So if Lucifer was the first created by God, then wouldn't Lucifer be “the firstborn of every creature”?  Wouldn't Lucifer be “the beginning of the creation of God”?  Wouldn't Lucifer be the one saying, “God created me as the first of His works”?Mike,Quote wouldn't Lucifer be “the firstborn of every creature”?PERFERCT MIKE, IN A PARTICULAR W…[Read more]

Quote then it is indeed HIS WORD that is metaphorically returning to HimMike,THAT IS A REFERENCE TO THE WORD JESUS' SPIRIT, SINCE HE STATED THAT IT WOULD RETURN TO HIM!Peace and love in JesusCharles

Quote The fact that one person established another person means that the established person cannot possibly BE the very person who established him. Mike,LET'S REFLECT: THE SON WAS IN THE FATHER! BEFORE CREATION!IN ORDER FOR GOD TO CREATE OUR WORLD, THE FATHER CHANGED HIS FUNCTION, AND ENTERED WITHIN THE SON!ALSO TO FURNISH THE FULL POWER TO THE…[Read more]

Quote The Father is also the only true God in the NT as well.What makes you think things changed?Mike,WHAT IS THE REASON THAT WE CALL IT THE NEW TESTAMENT?TELL ME HOW THE FATHER IS ALSO THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN THE NT!Peace and love in JesusCharles

Quote Now, the Word is once again at God's right hand in heaven.Mike,NOT QUITE CORRECT!So shall my word be, which SHALL GO FORTH FROM MY MOUTH: SO THE WORD LEFT THE FATHER it shall NOT RETURN TO ME VOID,THEREFORE IT SHALL NOT RETURN AS THE WORD OK? SO ON THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD THERE'S NOT THE WORDbut it shall do whatsoever I please, THEREFORE TH…[Read more]

Quote Since the Deity established David, does that make David the Deity?  Is David “God” because “God” is the one who established him?Mike,FOR GOD'S SAKE:DAVID WAS ESTABLISHED AS AN ORDINARY CREATURE ON EARTH, NOT AS THE WORD MADE FLESH ON EARTHWHEN WILL YOU LISTEN TO THE TRUTH?Peace and love in JesusCharles

Quote God and his words are one you can not separate God from his words.Gene, ALL THE ABOVE IS YOUR OWN CONFUSION!OR AS YOU SAID: YOUR CONFUSED OPINION!SO DO YOU WANT ME TO BELIEVE YOUR CORRUPTED WORDS, AND IGNORE JOHN'S WORDS OF GODWHEN HE DECLARED THAT THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH ?DO YOU WANT ME TO IGNORE THE SCRIPTURE HEREUNDER?So shall my word…[Read more]

Quote Also, are you even aware that by saying the Word had the “power OF God”, you are eliminating the Word from actually BEING God?MIKE,NEXT LESSON!SINCE THE DEITY ESTABLISHED THE WORD, AND IN RESPECT OF MY LAST POST REGARDING THIS MATTER,  WE ARE CERTAIN THAT THE WORD WAS GOD, ESTABLISHED BY THE DEITY HIMSELF!IT HAD TO BE ALSO ASSERTED THAT…[Read more]

Mike,I WANTED TO ADD, THAT:PELE BY BECOMING THE GOD OF FOOTBALL BY HIMSELF, HE ALSO BECAME SUPERIOR THAN HE WAS BEFORE HE BECAME SOIN THE SAME WAY GOD ALMIGHTY ALSO BECAME SUPERIOR THROUGH THE GLORIFICATION OF   THE WORD MADE FLESH JESUS CHRIST THAN HE WAS BEFORE HE BECAME SO FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT GOD DOES  ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNLESS HE E…[Read more]

Quote The same goes with “established BY the Deity”.  If he was established BY the Deity, he can't very well BE the Deity who established him.This is simple common sense, Charles. Mike,FOR ME IS MORE THEN THAT IT IS CHILDISH SATAN ESTABLISHED HIMSELF AS THE FATHER OF LIESSO THE FATHER OF LIES IS SATAN, ESTABLISHED BY SATAN HIMSELF!THE DEITY…[Read more]

Quote 2 whom he appointed an heir of all things,( on account of whom also the ages he made,) Kerwin,I DON'T BLAME YOU!READ MY MANIFESTOS, THE TRUTH!! MY PRIDE FOR GOD'S GLORY THE WORD WAS GOD IN THE BEGINNING! THE WORD WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE DEITY BEFORE ANYTHING WAS CREATED!THEREFORE SINCE THE DEITY ESTABLISHED THE WORDBEFORE ANYTHING IN ORDER…[Read more]

Quote Why should we sup on catholic falsehoods when we have living bread to eat? Nick,MAN DOES NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE!Peace and love in JesusCharles

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2014,07:51)Quote Thank you for your opinions. Can you find this god in the bible? Nick,I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS MY OP.IT'S HEREUNDER WRITTEN IN BLACK ON WHITE!1 John 5:7 And there are three who give testimony in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost. And these three are one. 8And there are three that give…[Read more]

Quote Do we not all have one Father?  Did not one God create us? Mike,THE ABOVE IS NOT A PROOF THAT THE FATHER WAS THE ONLY TRUE GOD IN THE OT.KEEP IN MIND THAT SATAN TOOK IT FOR GRANTED THAT HE WAS GOD OF THE EARTH  AND ALL HUMANS ARE OF THE EARTH! HE WAS ALSO UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT HE WAS A FATHER AS WELL!John 8:44 You are of YOUR FATHER <…[Read more]

Quote Hi C,Triune god?Nick,I SAID TRIUNE GOD, NOT GODSTHE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT, IS THE PERFECTION OF THE DEITY!YOU ARE ALSO A TRIUNE  BEING AS WELL! AND YOU ARE THE IMAGE OF GOD NO?YOU HAVE A SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER!YOU HAVE A SOUL FROM THE SON!YOU HAVE A FLESH AND BLOOD BODY FROM EARTH! EX SATAN! Peace and love in…[Read more]

Quote But which creature do YOU think was created first, Charles?Mike,I AM 100% SURE THAT LUCIFER WAS THE FIRST CREATURE, THAT WAS EVER CREATED!SO LET'S ACCEPT THAT  LUCIFER WAS CREATED FIRST AND THROUGH HIM GOD CREATED ALL ! HERE COMES MY QUESTION!WHEN GOD CREATED LUCIFER, AND IN ORDER TO CREATE LUCIFER HE INSERTED THE WORD WITHIN HIM, IN…[Read more]

Quote I thought I explained it good enough but I will try again.  The word has many inherent qualities that God but it does not have the inherent quality of being God. Kerwin,READ AND DISCERN THE TRUTH:Hebrews 1:1 God, who, at sundry times and in divers manners, spoke in times past to the fathers by the prophets, last of all, 2In these days hath…[Read more]

Quote It is not a being in its own right but Jesus is the being who has personalized it since it was made flesh. Kerwin,IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD! THE WORD WAS WITH GOD! THE WORD WAS GOD!SO THE WORD WAS A SPIRIT BEING WITH THE FULL POWER OF GOD, ESTABLISHED BY THE DEITY, WITH THE SAME THREE SPIRITS OF:THE FATHER       THE SON          and T…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 01 2014,02:14)Quote (carmel @ Feb. 27 2014,06:00)NOW YOU:GIVE ME ONE PROOF FROM THE OT. THAT GOD THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD?Peace and love in JesusCharlesCharles……..I see you can't show ONE SCRIPTURE where Jesus ever said He was a GOD> OK that should prove my point.Now I will give you just a few scriptures from…[Read more]

Quote The word is neither male nor female as it is derived from God's mind and put into action by him. He utters it and it does his will.  He rules angels by it.  He created all things that are created by it, even Jesus. Kerwin,WITH EVERY RESPECT, THAT'S YOUR CORRUPTED MIND'S OPINION!THE WORD WAS GOD! THEREFORE NEVER WAS CREATED!ALSO THE WORD: W…[Read more]