carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Read John 6, Charles. In that teaching, Jesus first tells his audience that he DESCENDED from heaven to the earth (“I came down from heaven…….”) – and later tells them that some of them will see him ASCEND to where he was before.In that teaching, we know that “descend” means “came down from heaven”, and therefore “ascend” means “go…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote He did not let a Jewish woman to touch him but he did allow Jewish men to touch him before he went to his Father and their Father, his God and their God.What would the Jews perceive as different between the touch of a woman and a man? Kerwin,DO YOU THINK THAT JESUS CONSIDERED THAT NONSENSE, AFTER HE BECAME A PERFECT MAN, THEREFORE NOT A JEW,…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote The rest of what you wrote comes from somewhere other than the scriptures – and is therefore not reliable.Mike,READ:Ephesisans 1:17 That THE GOD of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, IT SAYS THE GOD NOT GOD, OR ALMIGHTY GODSO FROM THE ABOVE ONE CAN JUSTLY CONCLUDE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS A PARTICULAR GOD!THE GOD OF CHRISTOR THE GOD…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote So we could say that God created all things through “Jesus of Nazareth” just as easily and honestly as we could say that God created all things through “The Word” – since they are really one and the same entity, only in different forms.Mike,YOU ARE DECLARING SOME GENUINE TRUTH WITHOUT BEING AWARE OF IT!SO GOD FIRST CREATED ALL THINGS, BOTH…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
.Quote Because he had not yet ascended to heaven and would not for forty days.Kerwin,THE BEST ANSWER YOU'VE EVER ANSWERED IN ALL YOUR POSTS ON HEAVEN NET! SO, WE ARE SURE THAT JESUS NEVER WENT TO HIS FATHER, AND TO HIS GOD!NOW,WHERE THEREFORE JESUS ASCENDED TO, IN THAT SAME DAY, SINCE FEW HOURS LATER, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT THE PLACE WHERE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ April 12 2014,03:27)Quote I must be less clever than a child of 6 as I have difficulty understanding your meaning.Kerwin,OK Baby!HOW DID YOU CONCLUDED THAT JOHN USED THE TERM ASCEND TO TO MAKE US AWARE THAT JESUS WITH HIS STATEMENT,MEANT IN A WAY, AS ASCEND TO THE TOP OF THE STAIRS,? Peace and love in JesusCharles
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote I ascend to the top of the stairs.Kerwin,A child of 6 would have been more clever than you, from the word ASCEND point of view ONLY! NEVER MIND WITH THE PREPOSITION TO ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE ESTABLISHES THE APPROPRIATE HEBREW/OR GREEK DEFINITION! SO HOW DID YOU CONCLUDED THAT JOHN USED THE TERM ASCEND TO TO MAKE US AWARE THAT JESUS WITH HI…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Jesus the source of all things! in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Do God and Jesus dwell in you, Charles?If so, does that make you either God or Jesus? Of course not. So the fact that God dwelt IN Jesus doesn't make Jesus God anymore than God dwelling IN you or me wouldn't make us God. Mike,FIRST OF ALL IT WAS GOD THE FATHER WHO DWELT IN GOD THE SON OR THE FATHER DWELT IN JESUSNOT GOD IN JES…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ April 11 2014,02:39)Quote (carmel @ April 09 2014,22:52)Quote (kerwin @ April 09 2014,14:22)Quote Your answer is confusing. Are you claiming Jesus is the Father?Kerwin,DID YOU ANALYSE PROPERLY THAT PARTICULAR SCRIPTURE YOU REFERRED TO?IF YOU DID, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT JESUS REFERRED TO HIMSELF!HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Jesus the source of all things! in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Btw, listing 5 times that God GAVE people to Jesus only proves that Jesus was NOT the God who GAVE him those people. Mike,When will get it into your mind that God was both in heaven, and in Jesus'body?Jesus' body was the carrier! matter! the word MADE FLESHSimply manifested God's work!BOTH IN HIMSELF, AND IN HIS WORK!SO WHEN JESUS THE M…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Charles,Do you believe Melchizadek was actually Jehovah God Himself? Mike, AS FAR AS I KNOW WE ARE DISCUSSING:GOD SPIRITANDTHE WORD GOD THE MEDIATOR SPIRITTHEREFORE BOTH ARE SPIRITS!NOW! WHAT MELCHIZADEK HAS TO DO WITH SPIRITS!SINCE HE WAS A HUMAN BEING! AND A PRIEST OF ALMIGHTY GOD !SO HE WAS FOR SURE THE WORD SPIRIT…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Your answer is confusing. Are you claiming Jesus is the Father?Kerwin,DID YOU ANALYSE PROPERLY THAT PARTICULAR SCRIPTURE YOU REFERRED TO?IF YOU DID, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT JESUS REFERRED TO HIMSELF!HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT HIS FATHER, BUT REGARDING HIS STATE, AND WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO HIS STATE A FEW HOURS AFTER! Peace an…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Water baptism was given to the Jews to as a confession that they understood the Gospel of the messiah (death, burial, & resurrection).”if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; an…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote THERE SHOULD BE FOUR,NOT THREE.YOU LEFT OUT THE MOTHER OF GOD.Wakeup,THAT YOUR SPAGHETTI NOT MINEPeace and love in JesusCharles
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote So who do you think Jesus called his Father and our Father, his God and our God if not God? Kerwin,JESUS WAS REFERRING TO HIMSELF SINCE HE GLORIFIED IN THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER !Peace and love in JesusCharles
carmel replied to the topic Jesus the source of all things! in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Instead, these things apply to the group of NON-believers Jesus was speaking to at that particular time. None of the statements applied to ALL MEN, or we could include Jesus' own apostles and disciples into that group as well.And if we include them, we must conclude that even Jesus' own apostles and disciples didn't believe him, believe IN…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Jesus the source of all things! in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote See how the passage specifically refers to THE FATHER'S voice, but you've taken it upon yourself change it to THE SON'S voice?Jesus said “the Father”, but Charles changes Jesus' own words to “the Son”. Hmmmm…………….Mike,READ AGAIN:It is the people who will not come to Jesus, because they refuse to believe in him, WHO DON'T HAVE…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote It is important that you are baptised in the name of Jesus Christ and not a trinity.Nick,JESUS CHRIST IS THE TRINITY !THE GODHEAD IN FLESH BODY!GOD THE FATHER SPIRIT OF LOVE DEFINITELY GOD'S TRIUNE SPIRIT CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS DIRECTLYGOD THE SON JESUS'FLESH BODY ONLY THE EX WORD SPIRIT OF WISDOM DEFIN…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote Charles, a mediator is one who intervenes BETWEEN two or more parties. The mediator cannot BE one of the parties he is intervening BETWEEN.If the Word mediates BETWEEN Mike Boll and Jehovah, then the Word can neither BE “Mike Boll”, nor “Jehovah”.MIke,SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR:A MEDIATOR IS NOT OF ONE BUT GOD IS ONETHEREFORE THE ONLY MEDIATOR GOD…[Read more]
carmel replied to the topic Jesus the source of all things! in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years, 11 months ago
Quote It is the people who will not come to Jesus, because they refuse to believe in him, who don't have God's word abiding in them because they have never heard God's voice.MIke,CORRECTION:NO ONE ON EARTH COULD HERE THE WORD'S VOICEOR JESUS' SPIRIT'S VOICE, OR THE SON'S VOICE,TALKING FROM WITHIN THEIR SOUL, BEFORE JESUS CAME, FOR THE SIMPLE…[Read more]
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