Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 24 2009,09:34)Hi Bd,Those who hate Christ, despite their pious claims, and hate His godly Spirit hate Paul.Do you mind explaining how the Spirit of Christ shoed Paul to use Guile and Craftiness as confessed by Paul?

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 24 2009,04:33)Hi CP, He is not a deceiver but is not understood by those who do not know the Spirit.This is what I am saying, why do you keep avoiding the truth even when the author admits his own deceit? You will never know the truth unless you accept what the scriptures say and then go from there.But be it so, I did not…[Read more]

Quote (CLIO-PATRA @ Dec. 24 2009,04:06)Hi WJ …. hmmmm Your quote :For instance all the talk about Paul being a coward when History shows that Paul was beheaded in Jerusalem for his testimony of Jesus just as he had prophesied!  Not correct WJ … Paul if beheaded at all was in Rome – history does say that he was beheaded by Nero … so I guess…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 23 2009,20:32)Bod,Im trying to stick around but its hard,God was showing me things,   i know i was getting through to you, but then that poster jumped in and started throwing it all at you, i was so wild! Then I got slammed for using the Quran, then you were thrown out of the conversation!  I was so upset, iv been sad ever s…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,18:03)No, because creation is defined as that being made by God through Christ. Obviously Christ didn't come into existence in that way. He wasn't made through himself because that would mean that he had to exist before his existence.John 1:3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,14:54)God is the source of all, even his son.The son had glory with God before the world began.So it stands to reason that he is the oldest being besides God who has always existed.The son existed in the form of God and God made the universe through him and for him.God sent his son into the world. This was the ultimate…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,14:00)God CREATED man in his image.God didn't create Christ in his image.Christ is the image of the invisible God. He is the fullness of deity in bodily form.We are not THE image and we are not the fullness. Each of us reflect in part.This is why he is the bridegroom and the Church is his bride.So God was never alone? You…[Read more]

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.Genesis 1:26-28For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.1 Corinthians 11:6-8Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,11:19)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,10:56)What does THE son of God mean?Simple speaking I take it to mean the offspring of God although children of God might be a better description of that.”Son of God” has many possible meanings, referring to angels, or humans or mankind.The son of God is a specific son of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,10:54)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,10:46)Okay, so let's get specific to the topic.Was Jesus saying he was the only way to God for all time or was he being specific to the audience he was talking to?How is this related to the topic?The topic is God beyond Christianity

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,10:53)Look up the verses to do with the him being THE son of God. The article is present.Look up the verse that says “we are gods”. The article is not present.The difference is clearly seen in the above.When Jesus said “ye are gods”, he was not saying “Ye are THE God”. Jesus is THE son of God.What does THE son of God mean?

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 23 2009,10:40)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 22 2009,17:50)The Quran was revealed to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel over a period of about 23 years it was written down by his associates and commited to memory as well.In the Quran there is no miricles recorded except the Quran itself which is the most supreme book in literature…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,10:32)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,10:26)Okay, so you concede that the first in all thing isn't literal, right?Now about Christ being in the form of God, in the ressurection you will be like him so will you also have the form of God and if so wouldn't that mean just being a spirit?You say that Christ humbled himself?…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,10:30)There is the definite article (THE).e.g., THE theos is not the same as theos.THE adam is not the same as adam.Similarly in English we can say the following:The man made tools.or Man made tools.One of those sentences is identifying a particular person and the other is talking of man in general.Likewise we are sons,…[Read more]

I guess I will have to declare victory in this debate as my opponent has remained absent although he has been active in the forum. This thread can be locked

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,10:05)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,09:59)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:49)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,09:43)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:29)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,09:04)To be in the Form of something does not mean to be the nature of something, is a mannequin the same as a Human?I am in human form. My…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:45)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,09:33)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:21)What is so hard about seeing that scripture teaching that Jesus is the son of God and you saying that he isn't.That is what is happening here.Your stance about old angels does not change that fact.The scripture teaches that angels are the sons of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:49)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,09:43)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:29)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,09:04)To be in the Form of something does not mean to be the nature of something, is a mannequin the same as a Human?I am in human form. My form is human and my nature is human.Thankfully I have access to divine…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:29)Quote (bodhitharta @ Dec. 23 2009,09:04)To be in the Form of something does not mean to be the nature of something, is a mannequin the same as a Human?I am in human form. My form is human and my nature is human.Thankfully I have access to divine nature and one day I will have a spiritual body.When you have a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 23 2009,09:28)Ye are gods is not the same as he is God.Therefore, we are sons is not the same as he is the son.Likewise, we are men (adam) is not the same as he is Adam.We are sons is plural he is son is singular, what other difference are you taking from that that is not written?I am glad that you brought up Adam though…[Read more]