Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 06 2010,06:28)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,11:21)Obviously we know from all these scriptures that God does not tolerate certain behaviours for too long before their are consequences he sends a warner and then destruction is soon to follow this is in all the scriptures because it is the SAME ONE GOD.I will address this…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,20:17)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,20:02)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,19:13)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,18:53)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,17:20)Quote the early Muslims were on their way to the hills of Mecca to hold a meeting with Muhammad, when a group of polytheists observed their gathering and began to abuse and…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 06 2010,01:38)BD, I don't want to turn this into a thread about the Quran. But I will say this plainly: you have taken verses from other parts of the Quran that basically contradict what I gave. You did not address the passage I listed in its context. Christians often do the same with the bible when they want to avoid…[Read more]

Surah 2:22 Who has made the earth your couch, and the heavens your canopy; and sent down rain from the heavens; and brought forth therewith Fruits for your sustenance; then set not up rivals unto Allah when ye know (the truth).

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2010,21:24)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,19:35)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2010,17:18)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,16:59)“Gullible” = 23″Numerology” = 46You are exactly twice as gullible if you believe in numerology.That's a proven fact.StuartHi Stuart,You do have God in you, but you just aren't unaware of it yet.'i am'=23 is the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,19:13)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,18:53)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,17:20)Quote the early Muslims were on their way to the hills of Mecca to hold a meeting with Muhammad, when a group of polytheists observed their gathering and began to abuse and fight them.And what was the polytheists' motive for the attack?StuartThe…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,19:10)Quote Defense of faith is not defense of the theology of the faith it is the defense of the faithful being persecuted for believing in that faith.So you are saying that if we remove the word faith altogether, then the meaning for you is identical?  We are ONLY talking about defending PEOPLE, so the faith bit is…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2010,17:19)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,12:59)1) I really think that you are witnessing the real2) Satan is the enemy of man and he is not any sort of God3a) You agree that there is only ONE TRUE GOD if this is so then you must admit that would mean there is no other gods       because a fake god is no god at all so pl…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2010,17:18)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,16:59)“Gullible” = 23″Numerology” = 46You are exactly twice as gullible if you believe in numerology.That's a proven fact.StuartHi Stuart,You do have God in you, but you just aren't unaware of it yet.'i am'=23 is the false god of religion!Theomatics is not…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,17:20)Quote the early Muslims were on their way to the hills of Mecca to hold a meeting with Muhammad, when a group of polytheists observed their gathering and began to abuse and fight them.And what was the polytheists' motive for the attack?StuartThe text just says that they began to abuse and fight the Muslims. The…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,17:18)Quote To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;-  (  Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #39)…which is completely useless unless you can define the word war, and STICK TO THE DEFINITION!Stuartwar (wôr) KEY NOUN:A st…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,17:17)Quote You seem to think that self-defense is evil, yet again more hypocrisy.What do you think I meant when I wrote this, then??:If the koran said it was wrong to kill except in a desperate situation of defending lives, then it would be easy, wouldn’t it.Why does the koran equivocate so much on the point of k…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,17:01)Quote Doesn't innocent mean not guilty of any offense? How is that an abomonation fo the definition?That is not the definition you gave!Which is it?Gee, does islam involve changing the definitions of words every five minutes too?  You are beginning to sound like an evangelical christian.Science, innocent, muslim.…[Read more]

T8,Very important for you to understand is that this debate is not about the validity of your beliefsI concede that you believe in much of what I believe, the problem is I accept you and you do not accept metherefore I am your neighbor but you resist being mine.I said God is beyond Christianity and so is Christ, he approved of the Good Samaritan…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 05 2010,13:38)His sacrifice allowed eternal redemption. Therefore he died once for all. When we sin, we have a covenant with God.Matthew 26:28This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.Hebrews 9:15For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,13:26)I have answered you several time innocent people are all those not physically thwarting you in practicing your religion peacefully.Apart from personally finding this an abomination of a definition of innocent, I note that if your religion requires you to do what mohammad did, and go forth and convert people, then…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 05 2010,08:26)The above merely shows me that the Quran can be s contradictory as any other man-written text. It is basically speaking out of both sides of the mouth.Do we not discover who is evil and who is not through the interpretation of knowledge?People will be judged according to their heart and intent.It's like bumping…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 05 2010,10:29)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 05 2010,04:23)How did I claim to be anything other than a man of God?And what moon God are you talking about there are no gods except GOD. Are you a polytheist?How many gods are there ED?This kind of thinking needs to be removedHi BD,satan is a real enemy entity. It is he who is your evil…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 05 2010,08:45)I am not sure what natural selection has to do with islamic suicide bombers, apart from attempting to explain how that come to be a human behaviour, or the contents of the koran, except to the extent that it explains how tribal hierarchy and political stability might be established in a tribe of humans by the use of…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 04 2010,22:52)It's quite simple BD, there is no need to worry.Those who are led by the Spirit are the sons of God.Not all are led by the Spirit of course. But, Jesus invites us to be. “Be baptized and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” This can be for anyone as Peter testified.Unlike prophets of old who had to make…[Read more]