Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2010,08:11)I promise you that I was being sincere about Moses.  To judge by 'his' writing style he was at least five people, one Moses of which described the circumstances of his own death.Regarding what I must believe the Torah was for, thank you for telling me what I must believe.  I will treat that with the contempt it d…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,20:36)So this god of yours is not ALL powerful then.  It cannot overcome omniscience and omnipotence paradoxes.  Your problem is that you would expect your god to be able to create rocks of any size, yes?  And lifting rocks should be a trivial matter, regardless of size?  How is it not in your god's nature to create roc…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,15:35)This is your new mantra is it, rather than give a valid argument in response, you assign the person's views to 'disease'?  That is exactly what islam does with homosexuality, isn't it.  No reasoning, just call it 'disease'.  I suppose it is a different strategy to the one that compares Jews to farmyard animals, at…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 24 2010,00:15)Debating with bodhitharta = I wouldn't say that you're a brick wall but your pretty close

Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 24 2010,01:46)stuart, to call this sexism to say the least is an understatement. slavery comes to mind.Do not mix Islam with cultural behaviours if you do you will have to include the bahaviours of Christians as acceptable in the Bible. Women in america have only recently been given the right to Vote.The Bible…[Read more]

You need to be educated on these things before just commenting

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,20:59)Maybe Iran is better?Women and the Iranian RevolutionWomen participated heavily in the Iranian Revolution of 1979 that toppled the shah. Notwithstanding this, the Islamic republic of Ayatollah Khomeini severely curtailed rights that women had become accustomed to under the shah. Within months of the founding of the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,20:47)In case anyone was thinking that this Saudi sexism is not islamic sexism, note the job title of this commentator:“I believe in equal right for everyone according to their circumstances….Women do have rights, but they are based on our view of their obligations in life.” –Dr. Saleh al-Sheikh, the minister for…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,20:19)Quote So are you stating emphatically that all the Jewish authors of the Torah, were liars and delusional without evidence to back it up?I don't remember mentioning the Torah at all.  I did discuss the new testament.  Have you got the two confused?StuartSTU,You are being very incinsere because you have mentioned y…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,15:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 23 2010,15:20)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,13:46)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 23 2010,12:54)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,08:16)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 22 2010,19:48)STU,The Bible is a collection of books written by several writers before they were compiled they were independent sources that…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,15:37)Are you intending to proceed with this thread any further?  Since you began it, perhaps you could define the moot for the debate, 23 pages into it, so at least we might know what we are arguing about.StuartYou stated NO ONE COULD know about God until they were taught about God, now I have won the debate because how…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,15:27)BDQuote History is pieced together from evidence and yet you don't believe that the history of the Jews are pieced together from evidence, how antisemitic!A muslim calling ME an antisemite!  Could that be the ultimate in hypocrisy! What exactly are you claiming to be the ‘history of the Jews’?  The new testa…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,13:46)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 23 2010,12:54)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,08:16)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 22 2010,19:48)STU,The Bible is a collection of books written by several writers before they were compiled they were independent sources that corroborated with one another.Your logic would suggest that if I read a…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 23 2010,14:38)Quote (princess of the king @ Jan. 23 2010,14:09)Quote In general are women as physically strong as men? in general can men tolerate pain as well as women?haha no way!I agree!

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,13:36)BDQuote I guess you glitched again. That is to be expected.It is to be expected because all you are doing is guessing.Quote I never said you were pretending, if that were the case you wouldn't have a disease but with the disease you “suppose” whatever you say is really rational.The conclusion to that is that I am…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 23 2010,07:42)No doubt. You just cannot stand to be wrong, can you? I have shown you the connection of Jesus to God in the Christian text. “Monogenes” is only used to refer to the genetic offspring of another. Now you may say that God has no genetic material, but the concept is the same. By using “monogenes” to refer to the…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,08:16)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 22 2010,19:48)STU,The Bible is a collection of books written by several writers before they were compiled they were independent sources that corroborated with one another.Your logic would suggest that if I read a collected work of Greek philosophers they would not be acceptable on…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 23 2010,07:47)Wrong again. If I raise someone in an area where gangs are prevalent, the likelihood of that person being in a gang increases. If I raise someone in an area where Christianity is prevalent, the likelihood of a person accepting Christ goes up. IOW, what is in your social network influences you.That is not a social…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,09:52)BDYour god is an unjust, sexist monster, according to any reasonable interpretation of your mythology.  Now are you so pedantic that you think me insane if I do not explain after every statement that I am writing conditionally?  You discuss all the time this god of yours and yet you cannot even demonstrate that it e…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 23 2010,07:31)BDQuote What is the evidence that socrates lived?The independent, CORROBORATING eyewitness accounts of his life.  They might be wrong, they could be a conspiracy, there might never have been a Socrates.  I think it reasonable to conclude that there was no conspiracy: there is no vested interest in lying about h…[Read more]