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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    There are at least 10 canons Protestant tradition Roman Catholic tradition Eastern Orthodox tradition Armenian Apostolic tradition Coptic Orthodox tradition Orthodox Tewahedo traditions Syriac Christian traditions

    The Quran is one book. Praise God for His Mercy!

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Hi EDJ

    I also concern myself with the concerns of those who may not even consider me a friend yet.

    Okay, so ask God about me

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    Hi BD,

    This is from another site .

    perhaps it will help.

    “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.”—Colossians 1:15–…

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    Hi t8

    @bodhitharta

    To be fair, you do not believe in the Father because your book says God has no son. Thus to adhere to your book, you have to deny the Father and Son. If there is no Son, there is no Father.

    I believe in God, I believe in Christ, I believe you can call people sons and daughters and children of God but those labels are not…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick

    Hi BD,

    But you do not adhere to the book.

    HU is not in it is it?

    Allah Hu Akbar

    Look it up in Hebrew or Arabic it is beautiful to understand the blessing

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hick

    hi BD,

    My faith is in God.

    If you had faith in our God and our Saviour Jesus you would understand.

    But your real faith is in little old you.

    You just said scripture is not open to private interpretation but then you decided to say “Our God and Our Saviour” Jesus when the scripture clearly said “Our God and Saviour Jesus Christ”

    Is…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    The very same people that declared the trinity valid are the very same people you are trusting to be accurate in what the printed….I just gave you a scripture that directly says Jesus is God, can you admit that?

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    What about the 7 book difference nick, were they inspired or not?

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    2 Peter 1 Young’s Literal Translation (YLT)

    1 Simeon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who did obtain a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:

    This says that Jesus is God, it says OUR God and Saviour Jesus Christ. What is your interpretation of it because it says that plainly

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi nick

    what is even more funny(troubling really) is that you don’t trust the very same people who assembled the Bible namely the Catholic Church, do you believe the entire bible is divinely inspired if so how do you feel about the fact that there are various canons 73 books in Catholic and 66 books in pentecostal how do you feel about 7 that…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi Nick

    hi BD,

    Scripture predicted the death of Jesus.

    Scripture records the death of Jesus.

    You disagree.

    The choice is easy for us but your attitude surprises.

    The Holy Spirit of God wrote scripture through men and few would take on the Holy Spirit.

    Luke 1:3 it seemed good also to me, having followed from the first after all things…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi Nick

    Hi BD,

    Is Jesus a liar?

    No

    Do the scriptures lie?

    No, they are written according to

    Does God not look after His scriptures?

    Yes, that is why God sent down the Quran, to protect the truth

    Does God lie?

    No

    Are you the true fount of truth?

    God is, but you fail to believe ALL His revelations

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi Nick

    so are you saying that the phrase lays down life for the sheep means

    1. I die for the sheep or
    2. I would die for the sheep

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi Nick

    Hi Bd,

    You disagree with Jesus .

    Are you greater?

    Answer the question as to whether you consider him a liar or merely misguided compared with you.

    Did you actually read anything that was written? Where did I disagree?

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    HI DavidL

    Likewise the trinity cannot be understood in natural terms, and like Nicodemus you also come up with ludicrous ideas, like…

    The Spirit is the Spirit OF God
    Yeshua is the son OF God.
    So is the Father, the Father of God?

    I just wanted to say here that you called that progression ludicrous but it is your belief that the F…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi Nick

    Hi BD,

    Did Jesus lie in Jn 10 and 15 or do you need to justify your own ideas?

    In JN 10 and his figure of speech about being a shepherd it talks about how when the wolf comes a hired hand will run away but the good shepherd will stay and protect the flock

    JN10 11“I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the s…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    Hi K

    There is evidence in Scripture that Jesus knew that Judas planned to betray him but that his students failed to understand the meaning of his words at that time. Luke 22:21 tells us he knew one of those with him was about to betray him.

    That is my point if it is a betrayal then there is no offering of himself.

    I do not believe Jesus…

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    Hi EDJ

    Hi BD, stop being so dense.

    Here is Daniel 11:31 in Hebrew, SEE THE LAST WORD?

    וּזְרֹעִים, מִמֶּנּוּ יַעֲמֹדוּ; וְחִלְּלוּ הַמִּקְדָּשׁ הַמָּעוֹז, וְהֵסִירוּ הַתָּמִיד, וְנָתְנוּ, הַשִּׁקּוּץ מְשֹׁמֵם=420. (Daniel 11:31)
    That is the word the “AKJV Bible” translated to ‘DESOLATE’
    (Hebrew is read from right-to-left)

    “and they shall p…

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    HI K

    I agreed with much of what you last wrote what I didn’t agree with is

    God did not sacrifice Jesus as God is not a priest but instead is served by priests.

    Jesus sacrificed himself, which is why he is called the high priest in the order of Melchizedek. His self sacrifice is an act of mercy as by it he kills the enemies of God and rescues…

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Bloodless atonement in the forum Faith 11 years ago

    HI EDJ

    Just as in everyday life there are some people to avoid being friends with and there are others where friendship is very welcome. In real life for instance I could not be your friend because you make mockery of my religion:

    O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether…[Read more]

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