Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2010,15:58)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2010,14:10)Jesus said:If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.Luke 14:25-27Tell me what this means, if you know.Hi BD,It means you don't know how to use a…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2010,16:45)Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 27 2010,12:42)Ed, Muslims are taught to hate the children of Isreal? Really? Is that in the Quran / from Mohammad or something more of todays frame of mind  eg to do with Palestine/Gaza?Yes they are taught to hate Jews.  I think there is little question that in many parts of the world, p…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2010,08:08)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2010,04:59)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,18:00)BD What happened to your bitter defense of parthenogenesis for Jesus.  Do you still believe that as a possible argument for those seeking to find a common explanation for a miracle, or have you abandoned your formerly aggressive stance on that,…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 27 2010,08:15)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 27 2010,07:11)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2010,16:44)This is what I wrote, and is what you appear infatuated by:You certainly are not born believing any particular faith, and you certainly cannot articulate god(s) until you are told about them.  If this is a ‘mental problem’ then it is common to a…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2010,11:55)Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 27 2010,11:41)I think that whatever it boils down to, it is love that  is important. Love of God, whichever way you do, as long as it is true ,and love of neighbour, whoever that may be also as long as it is true.  Jesus said it is those who worship God with spirit and with truth. Jesus a…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 27 2010,11:41)I think that whatever it boils down to, it is love that  is important. Love of God, whichever way you do, as long as it is true ,and love of neighbour, whoever that may be also as long as it is true.  Jesus said it is those who worship God with spirit and with truth. Jesus also did show his disciples who were i…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 27 2010,08:14)Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 26 2010,11:39)Thanks t8, I think my main problem is I never understood worship, being in church , people singing and  holding up their hands, I felt more comfortable with submission to God, which is what Islam teaches. So confusing the paths we walk down sometimes but I believe in trusting…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 26 2010,12:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,12:08)Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 26 2010,11:28)I understand what your saying, I know Islam does believe Jesus was the Christ.But then John says jesus was there at creation, before creation. And Jesus when praying asked God to reconcile him as they were before the world. Does Islam…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 27 2010,08:07)BD, are you talking about the subject that you an ED were engaging in, and other related posts?https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=2916As a matter of fact you have people in the believers section that even doubt whether Jesus was even the Messiah at all, sounds a bit skeptical to me,

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 27 2010,08:07)BD, are you talking about the subject that you an ED were engaging in, and other related posts?https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=2916Is numerology divination an acceptable Christian practice?I'm just asking, since you find it in error or non-belief to speak about ALLAH in the believers section why is it okay to…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 24 2010,16:44)This is what I wrote, and is what you appear infatuated by:You certainly are not born believing any particular faith, and you certainly cannot articulate god(s) until you are told about them.  If this is a ‘mental problem’ then it is common to all humans, at least in infancy.Where in there is the logical requ…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2010,23:58)First off, who is Heaven.net?Secondly, if there is occult stuff going on, then I am not aware of it. I personally do not read all the posts, so it is possible that there are posts in the Believers Area that are promoting the Occult.I usually rely on people reporting the bad posts to me, and I read and reply to…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,18:00)BD What happened to your bitter defense of parthenogenesis for Jesus.  Do you still believe that as a possible argument for those seeking to find a common explanation for a miracle, or have you abandoned your formerly aggressive stance on that, in favour of something you consider more plausible?Do you have the…[Read more]

Quote (kejonn @ Jan. 26 2010,15:14)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 25 2010,18:02)The Torah states that it was told to Abraham directly from God, is that a lie?God cannot verify, so as far as I know, it is a lie.Will the real god please step forward?So do you think Abrahm just decided to start circumcising on a whim?

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,17:51)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,15:17)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2010,13:10)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,12:28)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2010,12:23)I don't disregard Scripture, you are trying to put words into my mouth.The books of Chronicles and Kings belong in the Bible!The REAL question is what do you consider to be PROOF…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2010,13:10)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,12:28)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2010,12:23)I don't disregard Scripture, you are trying to put words into my mouth.The books of Chronicles and Kings belong in the Bible!The REAL question is what do you consider to be PROOF of God's existence,as I have shown you much proof to which you continue…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,12:20)Joseph was the biological father of Jesus according to Saul of Tarsus:Acts 2:30    Therefore being a prophet , and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.Acts 13:23    Of this man's seed hath God, acc…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,12:33)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,12:14)No Stu,How did any God information come about? Where did the concept and teaching come from and why?It was invented by pattern-seeking human brains.By a man called Brian.  Brian of Tanzania invented god on the afternoon of Thursday October 23rd, 8049 BCE.He did it because…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,12:30)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,12:28)Quote (Stu @ Jan. 26 2010,12:23)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,12:01)What is existence?Indeed.  What is it?Of course that question has no bearing on the nature of empirical evidence, because it is accounted for in the axiom that covers evidence.StuartIs existence beyond…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 26 2010,12:25)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 26 2010,12:08)Quote (karmarie @ Jan. 26 2010,11:28)I understand what your saying, I know Islam does believe Jesus was the Christ.But then John says jesus was there at creation, before creation. And Jesus when praying asked God to reconcile him as they were before the world. Does Islam…[Read more]