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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 16 years ago

    Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 11 2010,00:19)I have to chuckle — but also likewise be at least slightly disgusted — at the way in which I have seen people of the Abrahamic religions justify various parts of their holy books in modern times. They should just realize that their books really aren't that holy and see them for what they are: religious…[Read more]

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    Francis,In regard to your notion that the “gnostics” are autimatically wrongWikipedia-Fact in historyA common rhetorical cliché states, “History is written by the winners”. This phrase suggests but does not examine the use of facts in the writing of history.E. H. Carr in his 1961 volume, What is History?, argues that the inherent biases from the…[Read more]

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    2 Thessalonians 211And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.Ed do you ever actually study the scriptures and what is being said did you even understand what you wrote or what the passage is pertaining to?2…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 09 2010,09:49)Bod, they weren't looking for Him, they were just sitting, missing the Lord, grieving and in shock at what had just happened, Bod, you take part's of scripture to mean something else but ignore the obvious parts,Then why did they return later Jews are not allowed to touch the dead yet they came again with…

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    I must first say thank you very much for taking this matter so seriously and for that I salute you FrancisAs I look on my posts I will agree that at some points I did unintentionally use red herrings and or non-sequitorsI apologize for that but I let you convince me of arguing your argument which was faultyNow I must explain to you why your points…[Read more]

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    Why would the women be looking for him in the first place if they expected him to be buried they had already seen a large stone being rolled in front of the sepulcher so why would they have come back?

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    Surah 355 Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

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    Francis,Your argument is contradictory in itself as you claim the Quran is too far away from the occurence to bear weight then you give incredible weight to a modern day Atheist historian. Secondly, Historical mentions are not Facts or evidence they are only evidence of being mentioned.There is no Orthodox Jew who would call Jesus the Messiah, In…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 06 2010,19:22)Hi. I don't understand ?The women are key to this story

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Quran vs the bible in the forum Other Faiths 16 years ago

    Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2010,09:55)Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2010,20:55)Quote (Ed J @ June 23 2010,12:51)HI BD,                   Lucifer liar = 114 (2Cor.11:14)                     quran false = 114 (Gal.1:8)Why do you BD follow Lucirer's lie? The Bible says unequivocally concerning the Gospel…Matt.12:39-40 But he answered and said unto them, An evil…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 05 2010,18:41)Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 02 2010,22:39)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 02 2010,20:53)Quote (bodhitharta @ July 21 2010,22:49)Bod,Quote I dodn't mess up the answer but you refuse to see the simplicity of the answer which is Whoever God chooses who am I to be concerned about their Character?The simpilicity is…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Quran vs the bible in the forum Other Faiths 16 years ago

    God's Word is God's Word

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    Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 06 2010,09:36)Bodhitharta,From what I understand,The wounds were shown to prove Who He was, otherwise they would have doubted and not believed that it was Him who was crucified, it was Him who was on the stake,  it was Him who indeed rose from the dead. If He had no wounds to show, they would not have believed, well, not…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 16 years ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 06 2010,09:15)bodhitharta wrote:Quote You have shown what you would do, not what others would do to you. I have no control over what others will try do to me.  My morals are independent of yours.  While you may be happy to enslave me, I would never try to enslave you.Quote This has nothing to do with my moral framework a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2010,09:28)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ July 28 2010,02:33)1. Is this really justice?2.  Can someone who is not punished in the same way as the convict was supposed to be punished really be said to “take his place”?Hi WIT,1) Justice dictates: that 'a sin debt' needs to be payed.     Rom.6:23 For the wages of sin is death…     YHVH…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 06 2010,09:28)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ July 28 2010,02:33)1. Is this really justice?2.  Can someone who is not punished in the same way as the convict was supposed to be punished really be said to “take his place”?Hi WIT,1) Justice dictates: that 'a sin debt' needs to be payed.     Rom.6:23 For the wages of sin is death…     YHVH…[Read more]

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    bodhitharta replied to the topic Is slavery wrong? in the forum Faith 16 years ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Aug. 06 2010,04:39)bodhitharta,Defending one's home from invaders does not involve a choice to enslave the invaders.  It is a matter of killing or repelling the attackers.  Only people involved in the business of taking other people's stuff have to wrestle with the question of what to do with the dispossessed people.  No ma…[Read more]

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    Quote (francis @ Aug. 06 2010,04:38)Hello FrancisQuote So let's go thru each of your statements together:1)… The first thing you write is to say: There is NO historical facts about Jesus outside of the Bible and Quran. You even emphasized the word “NO” by capitilizing it. But then further on you make the following statements:—> “No Scholar…[Read more]

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    Notice Jesus prays to be saved by God 3 times and here you see pilate saying 3 times that he will be set free

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    Luke 23:22 (King James Version) 22And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he done? I have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him, and let him go.

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