Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 28 2010,19:07)Quote Read your post again? its like you have pride filled all within you. You speak as a righteous man, speaking to an ignornat child. this is not the case bod, not the case at all. You call confidence in God, pride?Quote You speak like a snake, breathing in and out with peace and pleasure within your…[Read more]

SF,One day I hope you really understand but today is not that day and that's okay I didn't learn instantly and so it's pkay if you don't either.The very first problem you have is continuing to Believe that Jesus is God which would be making “God” asking God to save GodJesus asked to be saved from the cross.sin and righteousness are not opposed to…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 27 2010,19:47)Bod,You yourself know what your sin is in this issue.Seek it out and expunge it yourself with God's help.You are capable of seeing the truth in what is being pointed out to you but your 'playful pride' is holding you to ransom.This is what the Holy Spirit reveals.Your posts reveals twisty tangly arguments…[Read more]

SF,Why do you keep saying without God as if we can even live without God? You must not understand what I am saying.Sin nor righteousness even has a definition without God so what are you really saying?

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 27 2010,09:57)Bod,What do you believe concerning God and Christ?And of mankind.God knows the heart of a man and can decide to overlook errancies.He, and he alone, can decide this. So, although mankind is inherantly sinful, God will overlook a certain amount of sin in one man if the rest of that man is, by His values,…[Read more]

And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.Luke 5:30-32Do you not believe Jesus?Luke 5:32 (King James Version) 32I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.Do you not believe Jesus?Luke 1:5-6 (King James Version) 5THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,18:23)Genesis 3:21-23Matthew 10:40-42 Luke 15:11-32John 9:30-32Genesis 18:22-242 Samuel 22:24-26 Job 1:7-9Matthew 10:40-421 Timothy 1:8-10James 5:15-17Mark 4:11-13 Isaiah 6:9-11Job 34:4-6now all these verses are in order in how you presented them.Whats funny that you went from the subject of Adam, to Noah, to…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2010,19:02)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,18:23)Genesis 3:21-23Matthew 10:40-42 Luke 15:11-32John 9:30-32Genesis 18:22-242 Samuel 22:24-26 Job 1:7-9Matthew 10:40-421 Timothy 1:8-10James 5:15-17Mark 4:11-13 Isaiah 6:9-11Job 34:4-6now all these verses are in order in how you presented them.Whats funny that you went from…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,18:06)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 26 2010,11:58)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,16:31)Quote God Said many people were Righteous, but what does that Mean that they were without flaws?Yes, God Said but you don't believe GodQuote So what was Abel doing? Wasnt he Attoning? offering scrafices?  The LAMB! that he…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Sep. 26 2010,15:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 26 2010,11:02)T8So what you're saying is that GOD is not the number one priority?Absolutely God is priority. But that is taken for granted and believers are those that believe the message and messenger that God has sent. It is not a term in scripture to identify anyone that believes in an…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 26 2010,17:58)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 26 2010,15:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 26 2010,11:02)T8So what you're saying is that GOD is not the number one priority?Absolutely God is priority. But that is taken for granted and believers are those that believe the message and messenger that God has sent. It is not a term in scripture to…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,16:31)Quote God Said many people were Righteous, but what does that Mean that they were without flaws?Yes, God Said but you don't believe GodQuote So what was Abel doing? Wasnt he Attoning? offering scrafices? The LAMB! that he killed, the best FATTEST one?The scripture does not say anything about atoning for…[Read more]

T8So what you're saying is that GOD is not the number one priority?Do you not understand that the first commandment is to Love GOD with all your Heart, Soul, and Mind? Yet you place Jesus above God knowing that Jesus is not God.If you didn't know that Jesus was not God what I am saying could be dismissed but you do know and when God is the MAIN…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 26 2010,08:58)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 26 2010,06:30)Wrong thread for this. This thread is for understanding T8.Nothing personal JAWe are working through the issues BD.  Understanding t8 includes many factors besides the ones you posted.StuartIf it is your desire to continue I will step aside.God Bless!

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,06:51)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 26 2010,00:48)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,06:32)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 26 2010,00:27)Quote Hebrews 11:4By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 26 2010,06:32)Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 26 2010,00:27)Quote Hebrews 11:4By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.You have now proven to yourself my point thakns to the Spirit…[Read more]

Now listen and I will teach you,Sin does not make someone unrighteous only whether they will progress in their teaching makes them righteous:Job 36:22 (King James Version) 22Behold, God exalteth by his power: who teacheth like him?Since God is therefore a teacher one is expected to learn so as God is willing to teach we must be willing to learn…[Read more]

Wrong thread for this. This thread is for understanding T8.Nothing personal JA

Quote Hebrews 11:4By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.You have now proven to yourself my point thakns to the Spirit of God that has helped you.ABEL OBTAINED WITNESS THAT HE WAS RIGHTEOUS BY THE…[Read more]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 25 2010,15:58)Bod, how was Noah Righteous other than him being open to God, and obidiant thats it.Everything goes around this scripture. 2Samuel22:33God is my strength and power: and he maketh my way perfect.I do believe scripture and we are talking about David who was not perfect nor consistently righeous. he did Sin…[Read more]