Quote (942767 @ May 20 2011,10:31)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 20 2011,10:21)Quote (shimmer @ May 19 2011,12:31)Quote So are you saying that Jesus wasn't being literal? If so what makes you think the term “son of God” is literal? Im not answering that Bod, I believe Jesus as the Son of God from Heaven and you dont, so lets just leave it.Youve already…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 19 2011,12:31)Quote So are you saying that Jesus wasn't being literal? If so what makes you think the term “son of God” is literal? Im not answering that Bod, I believe Jesus as the Son of God from Heaven and you dont, so lets just leave it.Youve already asked me this many times and you obviously dont want to learn anything by…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 18 2011,15:46)Istari, thankyou for your help.Bod, thats right what Istari said.Also, Peter calls himself the “Father” of Mark in 1st Peter, “And so does Mark, my son“.John said, “My little children, I am writing this to you so that you may not sin; but if any one does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ May 18 2011,06:02)Bod, Shimmer,'Father' is figurative. Just as Paul 'Begot' Onesimus (Philemon 1:10).Onesimus was a runaway slave who Paul 'took under his wing' and became his 'Spiritual Father'.Hence Paul calls him 'Son' and Onesimus would call Paul 'Father' – but only in a Spiritual and Figurative sense.Hence, Paul is talking to…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 16 2011,12:48)Bod, they taught two different things though. Paul believed in Jesus as the son of God, who came from Heaven down to Man, who spoke the words of the Father, and who was crucified and died and was risen from the dead, just as the other Disciples and Apostles and Teachers did.But Mohammad came along much later and…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 14 2011,21:14)Bod, Jesus as the son of God followed his Fathers words. So he is the leader and the others were to follow him. First there were the Disciples, and then there were the Apostles such as Paul, who took the Gospel to the Gentiles.There is no debate at all. You believe that Paul was sent to the gentiles although…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 13 2011,09:06)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 13 2011,09:58)you should be able to believe that God can also send MuhammadWhere in the New Testement does it say that another will be sent? It doesnt. Instead it warns that there will be false teachers and false prophets. Im sure if another was to come then Jesus would have said. The…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 12 2011,18:55)Ephesians chapter 2.So you then can see how a picture can develop, right? You admit that Jess was not wrong when he said he was only sent to the Jews but yet you cannot accept that Muhammad was also sent by God.I hope you see my point but you may not. You accept that Jesus could say two different things at two…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 11 2011,20:19)Bod, It was through Isreal (the nation) that God planned to save the whole world, be it Jew or Gentile. Do you think that God is only the God of certain nations and nationalities? Far from it. It was through Jesus that the world is saved.The Jews thought that they were the only ones you see, they believed that…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 10 2011,14:12)Bod…  I am not a Trinitarian believer.There is Father God, the one God who Jesus prayed to and told us to pray to and that is what I do. And there is the Lord Jesus Christ who I listen to and speak of.So… I do not read the Quran or follow Mohammad, I follow the Lord Jesus Christ and believe Him and all he…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 09 2011,17:27)Bod,Although there is only one God to be worshiped and prayed to (as Jesus said)… Jesus is the Lord, the head of the believers.  You used to listen to him but now you listen to Mohammad, so Mohammad has become your Lord…. Do you follow me?Your using the word 'Lord' wrong and misunderstanding it.  Lord is t…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 09 2011,11:18)Who is your Master and Lord?  You cannot have two Masters. They are saying two different things. So who is it, Jesus or Mohammad?It is neither, it is God Almighty but you still don't understand:Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 08 2011,20:15)Bod, I copied the following from the topic in believers place on monotheism.This made me think of Islam. What is the fine line between this type of Christian belief and Islam? Well, the thing is, the deception. We believe the Bible and all it says about the Son. Muslims believe the Bible is corrupt and God has no…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ May 07 2011,23:42)Bod, if you have some time can you read this and give me your opinion on any difference in what Muslims believe, thanks. Its here:http://kingdomready.org/blog….ipturesExcellent article but I still believe it is all the same because The Quran says that all that God has sent has been divine agency thereby leaving…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 07 2011,09:05)Quote (TimothyVI @ May 07 2011,06:22)I think we have to give him a break Stu.I agree.A long break.StuartObviously you did not understand what I was saying, as usual or you did understand but wanted to convolute the idea to avoid the point.

Quote (TimothyVI @ May 07 2011,06:22)I think we have to give him a break Stu.Bod has the holocaust and the atrocities committed against the Jews confused with the second world war.The holocaust was the genecide that helped to bring about that war. The Americans killed no one in the holocaust.TimMy point was that Americans killed the Opressive…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 04 2011,16:44)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 04 2011,15:01)Quote (Stu @ May 02 2011,22:21)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 02 2011,02:20)Quote (Stu @ May 01 2011,12:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 01 2011,06:40)Well, now we see the root cause of your waywardness you believe that no one should be held accountable for unacceptable behaviour. We…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 02 2011,22:21)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 02 2011,02:20)Quote (Stu @ May 01 2011,12:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 01 2011,06:40)Well, now we see the root cause of your waywardness you believe that no one should be held accountable for unacceptable behaviour. We should allow people to do whatever they feel like doing, right?How do we…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ May 01 2011,12:38)Quote (bodhitharta @ May 01 2011,06:40)Well, now we see the root cause of your waywardness you believe that no one should be held accountable for unacceptable behaviour. We should allow people to do whatever they feel like doing, right?How do we “see” that?You should address your concerns to christians.  It is they…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ April 30 2011,15:19)Quote (bodhitharta @ April 30 2011,10:35)Quote (Stu @ April 29 2011,11:45)Quote (bodhitharta @ April 29 2011,08:13)STU,Did you also pick up on the word “Banish” don't we think of the word banish as to mean permanent removal? Well do you think that verse is saying never sleep with them again or just don't share your…[Read more]