Quote (Lightenup @ June 27 2012,14:55)BD,I answered you clearly and sincerely. Jesus used the same approach with satan. It was appropriate for Him to use and I follow Him.”It is written…”IS The Father THE ONLY TRUE GOD as it is written and declared by JESUS CHRIST?

Quote (Lightenup @ June 27 2012,12:13)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 26 2012,10:16)BTW,I have to be more clear with you there is a difference between a Unity and a Number count. If there is ONE God it does not mean there is one group or type it means. How many? Count 1 stop. To say me and my father is one is a statement of Unity to say that my Father…[Read more]

BTW,I have to be more clear with you there is a difference between a Unity and a Number count. If there is ONE God it does not mean there is one group or type it means. How many? Count 1 stop. To say me and my father is one is a statement of Unity to say that my Father is the ONLY True God is a statement of number quantity. “ONLY”So I will ask you…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2012,16:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 25 2012,18:47)Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,11:41)BD,If you see that LORD=Jehovah/YHVH and if you see that YHVH=the God of gods and the Lord of lordsand if you see that for us there is one God (Father) and one Lord (Son)and if you see that the Father and Son are one…it all comes…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 26 2012,16:02)BD,Within the unity there are two persons, one is greater in authority than the other, so? I have never said anything different. I have never said that they have equal authority…one is the Father and has greater authority over the Son. This is typically the case within a Father/Son relationship. Still they…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ June 25 2012,20:09)skeptic; remarks from Gods word. and they that handle the law knew me not: the PASTORS also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by BAAL, and walked after things that do not profit.” Jeremiah 2:8 Where is the Lord?Neh 13:27 Shall we then hearken unto you to do all thisYou are so right, it's…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 25 2012,11:07)Quote (princess @ June 25 2012,13:30)Quote Charity, the Forum has two sections. Believers and Skeptics. This is to stop Skeptics attacking all the subjects that Believers want to discuss. And all can join in the Skeptics Area and be as skeptical as they want. So know one is being barred from posting what they want,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2012,10:56)Kathi,The one and only “Most High God” has a Son named Jesus.Does Jesus have a Son named Jesus?I guess that's what it all boils down to and Mike read my mind, yes Kathi who is the MOST HIGH?Psalm 92:8 But thou, LORD, art most high for evermore. Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,16:39)Hi BD,you ask:Quote When God says there is NO OTHER but ME how do you read that, do you see ME as plural even though God explicitly states there is NONE other?Good question. I see “ME” in this context as a unity and unities often have singular pronouns to refer to them. For example, the church is written of as…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,12:51)BD,Why, when I speak about “two persons being united as one supreme authority called God” you respond as if I said one person relating to himself as God alone? I don't think you are understanding my position. Maybe I am not writing clearly. Each person in the unity as one supreme authority, often called “God”…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 25 2012,05:51)BD,Hebrews 5:8Although Jesus was the Son of God, he learned to be obedient through his sufferings.Quote there was no food but because that He was to prove that He trusted in God as He teaches others to do.You just said he trusted in God but on the other hand you said he is God, so are you saying he trusted in…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2012,14:18)Mike,Do you see in the above post that the honor of being the 'First and the Last” is Jesus' honor? Do you also see that in the OT the one who is the First and the Last is the only God? I don't think that you can deny that, Mike. Jesus also has the honor of being the temple with the Father in Revelations.…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ June 20 2012,11:24)Mike,I have never disagreed that the Father has authority over the Son. You have authority over your son, do you not? Does that make you unequal? You are both equally human even though there is a difference in position. The Father and Son are both equally god natured even though there is a difference in…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 18 2012,06:15)Quote (journey42 @ June 17 2012,06:05)Hi What is trueThats a good example, but what about this one?Going to fortune tellers is not illegal.  Having seances or having  your tarot cards read is not illegal.  But is it moral?Again, as I mentioned at the end of my post to bodhitharta, questions of morality, (i…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 18 2012,06:27)Quote (princess @ June 17 2012,10:04)What of this one, you know someone is hungry and do not feed them, then share it with a group of people. This is a concept that can be applied equally. Is this moral or unmoral to do such.That's another good ethical dilemma.Again, the circumstance makes all the…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 16 2012,02:58)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 15 2012,09:24)No, you are talking about “rules” not “Morals” you can very well have sex with your mother and farm animals and still get along with others so what would make those things immoral?You are an ethical simpleton.  Not everything that is immoral is illegal, and not…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 15 2012,18:04)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 15 2012,14:24)No, you are talking about “rules” not “Morals” you can very well have sex with your mother and farm animals and still get along with others so what would make those things immoral?WiT posted this:”People who desire to live in community with other people have to behave in such…[Read more]

Quote (WhatIsTrue @ June 14 2012,12:53)bodhitharta,Yes, there absolutely is a reason for atheists to have morals.  It's call social cooperation.  People who desire to live in community with other people have to behave in such a way as to not be a detriment to that community.There's no need for a man living on an island by himself to have morals, b…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ June 15 2012,12:55)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 14 2012,11:07)There is absolutely no reason for atheists to have “Morals” why or how could for instance an atheist find it immoral to sleep with his mother?May be due to the same reason a prophet finds it alright to take a girl a third his age and marry her. What do you think BD?This…[Read more]

There is absolutely no reason for atheists to have “Morals” why or how could for instance an atheist find it immoral to sleep with his mother?