Quote (Lightenup @ April 13 2013,16:06)Hi Bo, I hope you are ok!Yes, I'm doing fine thank so much for asking as I hope you are doing well too. I am done with this thread though, I don't believe your belief is totally agreeable with mine but I don't find enough disagreement to argue further.

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 29 2013,15:34)Bo,The Father and Son…two persons giving one direction via their Holy Spirit. Your verse about serving two masters is about two persons each giving different directions. The Son speaks what He hears the Father saying, and He does what He sees the Father doing. They give only one directive, not each giving…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 27 2013,17:38)Bo, we are commanded to love Jehovah as our only God. So, if any being is called god and is not Jehovah, we are not to make them a god of us. We are not to bow down to them, to serve them, to make covenants with them, etc. The million dollar question is whether Jesus is Jehovah or part of the Jehovah's deity?…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2013,13:32)Whether it matters or not, do you believe Jesus is called 'theos' in the Bible?Also, where is Paul called 'theos' and who is it that is calling him that?You see, you will always chang your view to be right. The Bible says “Ye are all Gods, Ye are all th children of the most high” and you will say the bible…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 24 2013,00:56)Bo,Please answer this question:Do you really believe that the Bible does not call Jesus, theos?It wouldn't matter because the same word was used for Paul, right?

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2013,16:11)Hi BD,How have you been?Awesome! and you?

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 22 2013,14:53)Bo,Do you really think that Moses or Paul were divine? If not, then why even mention them? On the other hand, Jesus is one that existed pre-flesh and in the beginning and through Him all things were made and through His sacrifice all men were given the opportunity to be saved and have eternal life with Him.Do…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2013,12:49)I should have said: from 0-3 weeks. There is no doubt God always reveals GOD, In-fact God has already revealed Himsef to Everyone but still if on asks for a sign a sign is alway given even if it is the fact of asking for a sign

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 21 2013,15:39)Here are a few examples where the Son is called 'God.'Heb 18But about the Son he says,“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;therefore God, your God, has set you above your companionsby a…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 21 2013,15:03)Bo,When you capitalize all 4 letters in LORD, that generally refers to YHVH. I think that you mean 'Lord,' right?If so, then as the 'Shoot/offspring of David' He was speaking as a man who was made lower than even the angels, so naturally, the Father would be His Lord and God. But in the NT, the titles 'Lord'…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,16:13)Hi Bo,You only see Jesus as the 'Shoot' and only speak of Him as the 'Shoot/offspring' of David/Jesse. You do not know Him as the Root of Jesse. That is why you are perplexed with what I say. As the Root of Jesse, He is part of the root 'system', which I believe is YHVH who is our God-YHVH who is one. YHVH is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,13:53)Hi Bo,The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are interdependent as the Almighty God. No part can or ever was or ever will be missing of the Almighty God. The Father needs the Son and the Holy Spirit to be the Almighty God, our Saviour.Well, I guess we are finish here because your final analyses is that “God Needs”…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 17 2013,11:00)Well, to be more clear about what I can agree to…I believe that the eternal Father together with His own eternal 'Arm' which is the eternal Word of God that became flesh, and the eternal Holy Spirit make up the fullness of God Almighty. The eternal Arm apart from the eternal Father and eternal Holy Spirit is…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 16 2013,06:57)Hi Bo,The God Almighty that made us all is seen by the 'Word of God'…who is God Almighty's own ARM which brought salvation to you.Fair enough. You agree that the arm of salvation “belongs to” God Almighty and not “is”

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 14 2013,12:41)The roots of Jesse would be the Father of humanity. The roots of Jesse would be YHVH, who is the God of gods and the Lord of lords. Jesus is the Lord of lords.I meant “Jesus” but it really doesn't matter God Almighty created us all and to Him we will return

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 11 2013,14:29)Hi Bo,I hope you are well!Jesus as the Son of Man (the Second Adam) is the Branch (offspring) that comes from the Roots of Jesse through the stump of Jesse.Jesus as the Son of God is the Root of Jesse/man and it is through Jesus as the Son of God, that all men came to be.Roots (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 10 2013,16:57)Right, He isn't specifically 'called' the Root of Adam. Nevertheless, Adam was made by the Father through the Son, so the Father and the Son would be the roots of Adam. And one of the roots, the Son of God, became a descendant of Adam through David's line as the second Adam, the Messiah, the Son of Man.The Son…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,12:25)Bo,The root of David is also the root of Adam. God with and through His Word are the roots of Adam for it is by them that all things were created, imo.1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 06 2013,02:56)Hi Bo,Yes, Jesus is a descendant as a great, great…grandson, not like Solomon who is a direct son. Jesus is the promised descendant of David, promised by YHVH to redeem Israel and known by the Jews as the Son of David.The Son of David is the 'shoot' AND the 'root' of Jesse and David. He is the root by being…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 04 2013,13:43)So do you now see that Jesus is a literal descendant/son of David?Yes a descendant not a Son of David as in the case of Solomon, right? Also Adam would be the root of David or even Abraham would be the root of David. Jesus could not be the root of David even if he was in a spiritual form