DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 months ago
My guess you still haven’t looked up the provided passages concerning to whom the “arm of the Lord” was revealed. What are you afraid of?
It’s never to late to turn back to Hashem! HE is always waiting for you with out stretched arms, because HE loves HIS creation.
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 months ago
The question was for you to expound and clarify what your opinion is, not for me to seek out the “truth” on how the Leviticus passage relates to the Isaiah. You made a statement, now clarify. My guess is you are unable to because you really don’t know why you believe what you believe. My guess is someone told you this and you belie…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 months ago
In what respect does the Leviticus 10:17 passage have anything to do with Isa 53? To say it relates with no explanation says nothing! How am I to know what you’re talking about when you never explain anything?
Then refusing to answer who the “our” is only further proves how entrenched in religion and doctrines you are and how they take…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 months ago
Your point? And does this have to do with the “our” in Isa 53 being the prophets?
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 months, 1 week ago
You quote man’s thoughts and accept that as proof for what you believe?!?!? You make my point and settle my case of christians believing what they are told to believe!
Let’s examine this commentary to see if Isaiah is really referring to himself and the other prophets or “possibly Isaiah’s own disciples” (did you notice the indecisiv…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 months, 1 week ago
Nowhere in anything you wrote did you say who the “our” is; our is a plural pronoun and would signify multiple people who are owning what they did to the “servant.” Who does the voice represent/speaking in verses 1-9?
I do appreciate the response, but can you support with the Tanakh what you are claiming Isaiah is “antici…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 3 months, 1 week ago
Who’s the “our”? It’s the same “our” who begins speaking in verse one about a “report” no one will believe.
What does chapter 52 say, the chapter that leads into 53 and puts what is written into context (specifically the last three verses)? Do you know what chapter 54 says?
I’ll ask again, can you start in the middle of a novel and k…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Moses used blood to seal the covenant between God and the Israelite’s and nothing more; to keep asking the same question isn’t going to change my response. The plain words written say only that. It’s christianity that wants there to be more to help support its idolatry; I say idolatry, because anything that comes between you and God I…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 months, 2 weeks ago
You: For me this blood symbolized the blood of Christ for the erasure of sins (ultimate goal)
Me: This is a fascinating response, your personal belief overrides the words written. Even though the sprinkling of the blood was to solidify a vow, a covenant between God and the Israelite’s and has nothing to do with atoning for anything, y…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Let me point out, in nothing you wrote did you explain anything; you asked three questions and exclaimed “THE POINT IS THERE” as if by reading one verse I now have the full understanding of what you’re trying to convey. Has the intelligence of people really dropped this much? Do we not understand a conversation is a series of answe…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 months, 3 weeks ago
You copy and pasted a bunch of verses, offered zero explanation or what they mean to you, AND most importantly, you asked no question. Explain what exactly am I suppose to respond to? Your pointy fingers!??! I have said in the past “pointy fingers” do NOT explain what is going on in your mind and I cannot interpret them to know what your…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 months, 2 weeks ago
Once again you have given nothing to refute or explain why I am wrong. I have explained why you’re wrong and have shown why you’re wrong; and every time you “counter” with cherry picked verses taken out of context. If you cannot substantiate what you believe, why do you believe it?
Because Jesus claimed Isa 61:1 was about himself,…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 months, 2 weeks ago
You: I believe that Christ fulfilled all that was written in ISAIAH 61:1
Me: But the passage has nothing to do with Jesus; so you believe a lie…understood! What I find fascinating is you believe something you’re unable to explain.
If Jesus was the fulfillment of this, then Jesus would have brought the message God was going to do t…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 months, 2 weeks ago
You: For Jesus, when he read in the synagogue, he read the scroll that was in that synagogue.
This is what Luke relates.Me: The point Berean is Jesus wouldn’t have been reading from a Greek translation in a synagogue. This is a corruption of the text and you don’t question it. Never mind the fact “Jesus” completely takes out of context…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 months, 3 weeks ago
You: I just pointed out that the Septuagint was used by Luke, so that’s all.
Me: Are you okay with a corrupt version being used as truth? The question still remains unanswered, why would Jesus be reading from a Greek translation and not the original Hebrew? This doesn’t cause you pause and question the veracity of what Luke wrote?
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 months, 3 weeks ago
Nice try; HOWEVER, wasn’t it you who stated the Septuagint was a corrupt translation?!?! Since you believe the only true translation is the King James, why are you using the Septuagint in this particular situation? Explain why the Septuagint is the only translation that uses this language in Isaiah? Even the translators of the King James…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 months, 1 week ago
Wow! You can’t even defend what you believe! You remind me of a Jehovah’s Witness repeating what you have been told to say and anything beyond that, you’re lost. You can’t explain Isa 53 since all you know are a few verses you have been told mean the Jesus. You cited Ps 22:16, but are unable to explain the context of the chapter. I laugh…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 months, 2 weeks ago
You quote Ps 22:16 as “proof” to who the “our” is in Isa 53:1 and the “message” no one would believe?!?! That makes zero sense! Or were you just spouting off verses again without explanation?
How exactly does Isa 53:5 explain the pronoun in verse one?
You then quote Zech 13:6; recommend you read verses 1-5 to put 6 into perspective…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Who do you think the “our” is in verse one and what message are they speaking that is so unbelievable? Who is speaking here? Please don’t stop at one verse, explain them all and what’s happening. Singling out a few verses and saying it’s Jesus is nonsensical and proves nothing but cherry picking, place all the verses in context and expla…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 9 months, 2 weeks ago
But pointy fingers don’t explain anything do they!
Judging by your lack of answers to the questions asked, you really don’t know what you believe or why, which is sad. How are you bringing anyone to the Jesus if you can’t answer questions asked and explain the why? You seem like the typical uneducated christian who parrots all they h…[Read more]
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