DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months ago
You’re not answering my question.
Who is this Son of Man to you? Yes, the Messiah, OK, but what name do you give him?
How can I name someone who hasn’t come yet!??!!?? I suppose we could call him “Bob”; but the wouldn’t be very Jewish.
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months ago
I already said who the one that “looks like the son of man” is. It IS a reference to the Messiah; it IS NOT a reference to the Jesus. Can you prove the Jesus is the true Messiah spoken of in the Tanakh; did the Jesus fulfill all that was said the Messiah was to do when he was here; if the Jesus missed a single requirement spoken abo…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months ago
Not following your passage comparison of Exodus and Daniel; one speaks of man not being able to fully see G-d’s glory and the other is a vision/dream. You still haven’t explained how this would be about the Jesus.
What enabled him to survive before God?
It was a dream.
The bigger and only question one must ask, did the Jesus fulfill wha…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months ago
I only show you that pre-incarnate Jesus is very present in OT time
What you’ve shown is your belief; you have given no proof, just religious doctrine and interpretation. Christianity teaches the Jesus is the “angel of the Lord” spoken of in the Tanakh; so who where all the other angels in heaven if they weren’t the Lord’s angels?…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
Nothing like continuing to evade and dodge the question; are you afraid to say the name of the Jesus? Are you ashamed to proclaim his name? Is it because you know none of the verses support that belief when placed in the context they are written? So sad!
Isaiah is speaking of a son that has already been born…Hezekiah and NOT the…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
Who do you say the Isa 9:5-6 passage is about? Let’s finish this goal before we move it.
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
This is the passage you posted and have been using during our conversation.
5For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, “the prince of peace.”
6To him who increases the authority, and for peace without end,…
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
And for you, FOR how long should this last? A few years, a few centuries, endless???
You aren’t helping your cause as I have already answered your question thru examples. Again, this king spoken of in the previous verse canNOT be the Jesus (christian belief, including yours) as there is a starting point of “now”, in Isaiah’s time; the Jes…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
Why are you quoting from a Hebrew translation? This translation destroys how king Jimmy translates it.
Did you finally leave the shackles of E. G. White?
Who do you think it speaking of if it isn’t Hezekiah or the Jesus?
What does the “now and to eternity” mean; are you understanding it with modern language or with the understanding…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
I see you didn’t read anything and are still smashing the “Ellen White Believe Button”; please provide a single passage in the NT where the Jesus is called any of these titles “wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father” OR the “prince of peace.” Additionally 9:7 says that there will be no end of the government of…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
You may want to read the last sentence of what I wrote; I explicitly state the king I’m speaking of and give passages for one to read concerning this king, the son of king Ahaz.
Since you went to chabad.org to get the verses in question, did you read the commentary?
Can you answer why Ahaz would need to hear about a “messiah” (for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Justin Martyr said:
And I replied, “Not two Gods, but one God in two persons.
I would have said “Not two separate Gods, but two divine eternal persons in unity. In some contexts, they are separately represented by the name “YHWH” and in other contexts they are together represented by the name “YHWH.”
My concern is bigger than who is ca…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months ago
@Proclaimer @Berean @DesireTruth
When you understand that YHWH is a name for the fullness of God as well as the name of each presence of God, i.e. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, many things in the Bible become easier to understand. Give it a try, ask the Holy Spirit to illuminate this and open your heart and mind.
Be blessed, LU
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 6 months, 1 week ago
Still attacking the catholic church and its leader; please explain Paul’s words concerning the Sabbath.
Col 2:16,17a “Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; Here Paul states one isn’t to judge another of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
Great collection of verses on the Angel of the LORD.
The “angel” of the LORD is also the YHWH who is written about here:
The heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe. Heb 1:2
The radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of His nature, upholding all things by His powerful word. Heb 1:3
One to be worshipped b…Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
This question “Any thing that you disagree with in that Berean?”
And this question: “Any thoughts?
These questions relate to two posts above here directed to you.
LU
Lightenup replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 6 months, 1 week ago
DesireTruth replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 6 months, 2 weeks ago
In nothing you quoted does it say it’s the Catholic church or the pope! This is your religion projecting; prove with the Tanakh G-d said what you believe.
Please note, you still haven’t scripturally explained how the pope is the “foot soldier” of Satan. Still waiting for an explanation of the Jesus’ words in Rev 1:1 “the things which m…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 6 months, 2 weeks ago
Not at all, I have no hatred towards Catholics.
Yet, virtually every post is a negative comment disparaging the religion and its leader. This is what is called “hate.”
I only protest against false teachings and those who propagate them.
Yet, you follow after the teachings of an individual who said the Jesus was returning when she was ali…[Read more]
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