DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 2 months, 3 weeks ago
I find it amazing today how the “christian” is unable to answer and support their beliefs when those beliefs are challenged. Instead of proving their belief is correct, they deflect or move the “goal post” away from the original topic. My favorite is the double standard of question answering; crying about their questions not being a…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 2 months, 3 weeks ago
What hilarity!!!! You can’t even answer your own questions!!
Why where these first offerings done and what did they mean?!?!!? I asked to be enlightened and you run from your own statements!!!!
You then accuse me of loosing “sight of a CRUCIAL element that runs throughout the entire Old Testament”, which seems to be “ceremonial law” to…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 2 months, 3 weeks ago
I MUST answer, is that a joke!!!! From one who refuses to answer questions!
What answer did your religion tell you? Enlighten!
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 2 months, 3 weeks ago
Jesus has already accomplished the essential (Isaiah 53).
You can’t explain Isaiah 53; but you sure do “believe” it’s about the Jesus. Who is the “servant” mentioned in the previous chapters?
Isa 41:8 “But thou, Israel, My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham My friend
Isa 44:1 “Yet now hear, O Jacob My servant[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 months ago
Still waiting for an explanation of Rev 1:1,3 and 22:7,12,20 and that “come quickly” phrase the Jesus utters and never did. It’s been 2000 years, and the “church” is still waiting…”come quickly” must mean wait forever. I asked before, what temple is John measuring in Rev 11; if it’s the second temple, the revelation of John was writt…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 1 week ago
So we’re going to toss grammar into a heap of trash and favor our own understanding because we like it better as it fits with our belief system…understood!
I really liked the “One could understand why the word “bar” is used, as a prophetic “wink” to signal the Messiah/Anointed King.” You go with that and keep believing the lie you w…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 2 weeks ago
You think I’m “biased”; have you paid attention to christianities beliefs? You seem to forget, for 40 years I was in christianity; I know the christian talking points. Remember, when I first joined we spared over christian doctrines and beliefs and NOT actual truths.
Anyways, Psalm 2:12 seems to be the sticking point because it says…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Again, you have the power of study at your literal fingertips, resources beyond what any generation has ever had access to, and you choose instead to rely on what you have been told.
Once again you have proven nothing of the Jesus being The Messiah. The “son” is a reference to a king appointed by G-d and a better understanding of thi…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Then you don’t understand the passage! With your Jesus goggles on, you will never see the truth.
Judaism and christianity are not compatible, they don’t have the same messiah; Judaism has a messiah who will unite the world, bringing peace to all nations, and all serving one G-d; The Messiah, when he comes, will be a human king in D…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
it is spoken here of God and his Son
Where?!?!?
Prov 30:22 “under a slave when he becomes king, and a fool when he is satisfied with food;”
Prov 30:32 “If you have been foolish by exalting yourself, and if you have devised evil, put your hand to your mouth.”
You get the Jesus out of these two passages…WOW!!!! Tell me you quoted the…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Meanwhile, you’re not addressing Genesis 1:26. It’s either about angels or the Son of God.
We have already had this conversation, mind you it was over a year ago; but still. Please READ the following:
Gen 1:26, Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over t…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Your first BIG MISTAKE is believing, according to Genesis 1:26, that the person(s) to whom God speaks are angels. Angels, good or bad, DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO CREATE LIKE GOD. ONLY GOD THE FATHER AND HIS SON HAVE THIS POWER.
If this is my “first BIG MISTAKE”, yours is believing the Jewish bible was meant for the christian world. You…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
As we read in the New Testament, Jesus Christ had already revealed himself as Shiloh (the Messiah)
Except, the Jesus canNOT be The Messiah as he isn’t the descendant/seed of David and Solomon. Your NT explicitly states he was conceived by the spirit and NOT a man. G-d said the Messiah was to be of the line of David, how does no one see t…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Just because Ezekiel mentions the temple “in the midst of them” does not imply “the building of a third temple, not at all.
You may want to read Ezk chapters 40-48; sounds to me like a physical temple.
This is the Holy City, the Heavenly Jerusalem, which will descend from heaven to settle on Earth, which will be renewed and inhab…
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Oh really? He’s not born yet!
The true Messiah may well be born today. When will we know?
How do you know he’s not born yet? Can you prove it with the Tanack?
A better question would be has he been revealed; his birth isn’t the focal point in the Tanakh, what he will do and what will happen when he arrives is. Please read again what I w…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
You’re not answering my question.
Who is this Son of Man to you? Yes, the Messiah, OK, but what name do you give him?
How can I name someone who hasn’t come yet!??!!?? I suppose we could call him “Bob”; but the wouldn’t be very Jewish.
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
I already said who the one that “looks like the son of man” is. It IS a reference to the Messiah; it IS NOT a reference to the Jesus. Can you prove the Jesus is the true Messiah spoken of in the Tanakh; did the Jesus fulfill all that was said the Messiah was to do when he was here; if the Jesus missed a single requirement spoken abo…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 3 weeks ago
Not following your passage comparison of Exodus and Daniel; one speaks of man not being able to fully see G-d’s glory and the other is a vision/dream. You still haven’t explained how this would be about the Jesus.
What enabled him to survive before God?
It was a dream.
The bigger and only question one must ask, did the Jesus fulfill wha…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 3 months, 4 weeks ago
I only show you that pre-incarnate Jesus is very present in OT time
What you’ve shown is your belief; you have given no proof, just religious doctrine and interpretation. Christianity teaches the Jesus is the “angel of the Lord” spoken of in the Tanakh; so who where all the other angels in heaven if they weren’t the Lord’s angels?…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 4 months ago
Nothing like continuing to evade and dodge the question; are you afraid to say the name of the Jesus? Are you ashamed to proclaim his name? Is it because you know none of the verses support that belief when placed in the context they are written? So sad!
Isaiah is speaking of a son that has already been born…Hezekiah and NOT the…[Read more]
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