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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

     
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    The same was in the beginning with God.
    All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
    BY HIM…..WITHOUT HIM

    HIM = ONE PERSON
    NOT A word spoken by God before the world began…
    THE “HIM “WAS THE SON OF GOD.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

     

     

    Jodi

    You

    It is ridiculous to want to take the WORD of God and reduce it to a simple assimilation to God and to deny that it represents His WORD of which He speaks and which are made true. As you want to see and process the Word, the Bible might as well open up and say GOD and that’s it.

    Jodi

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    T8

     

     

    AND THE WORD WAS WITH THE GOD

    THE WORD WAS GOD

    I MEAN

    THE WORD WAS NOT THE GOD

    BUT THE WORD WAS OF THE SAME NATURE/FORME THAT THE GOD (theFather)

    Jesus:

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    oV en morfh qeou uparcwn ouc arpagmon hghsato to einai isa qew
    2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

     

     

    Hi Jodi

    The Bible is CLEAR Jodi

    VERSE 1) “AND THE WORD WAS GOD…”
    VERSE 14) AND THE WORD BECAME FLESH

    BACK TO : All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Now examine this part:

    without him was not any thing made that was made.

    WITHOUT

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    adverb from cwra – chora…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    All things were made by him;
     

    ALL  THE BIBLE’S TRANSLATION

    GIVES   BY HIM

     

    Even if you don’t agree with the “by,”

    There’s the “him”

    Him means a person

    Now another point you still haven’t answered.

    COLOSSIANS 1

    For in him were created all things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, thrones, dominions, powers. All things we…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    Who, being in the form of God, ….
    And the WORD WAS GOD
     

     

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    Jodi

    Philippians 2 IS TALKING ABOUT CHRIST JESUS, the Son of Man said to have been ANOINTED with the full measure and power of YHWH’s Spirit SENT out into the world by YHWH/thus sent FROM HEAVEN, to be as YHWH by performing all of YHWH’s WILL and speaking all of YHWH’s words.

    Me

    you said  …. the Son of Man…..thus sent FROM HEAVEN, to…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Jodi

     

    you

    How was the human Jesus in the form of God, UNLIKE other humans, unlike his FELLOW BRETHREN?

    He was the only mortal man begotton by God receiving the fullness and power of God’s Spirit where he could not sin.

    Me

    You try to divinize (in your own way) the man Jesus, but I am not fooled, you preach A HERESY.

     

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    HIS NAME IS  CELLE THE WORD OF GOD

     

    WE GIVEN A NAME ONLY TO A PERSON

    OK???

    JÉSUS CHRIST IS” THE WORD”

    WHO WAS WITH THE GOD IN THE BIGINNING

    AND HE WAS GOD

     

     

     

     

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

     

     

    Jodi

     

    You

    The WORD of YHWH before the world began was eternal life…

    ME

    Eternal life is not a person

    THE WORD WAS GOD

    THE WORD IS A PERSON

    OK ???

    THE WORD IS THE NAME OF THE SON OF GOD BECAUSE JESUS SPOKE THE WORDS OF GOD

    OK ???

    And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    …THE WORD WAS GOD….

    ONLY A PERSON CAN BE GOD

    NOT A THOUGHT

    NOT A WORD SPOKEN

    OK ???

    RELATION JOHN 1 WITH 1 JOHN1

    John 1
    In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

    IN HIM

    HIM >>>>> A PERSON >>> NOT A THOUGHT …NOT A WORD SPOKEN

    IN HIM WAS LIFE……

    1 JOHN 1

    1] That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    BEING MADE IN THE LIKENESS

    OF MEN

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

     

    Jodi

     

    The WORD WAS GOD

     

    ONLY A PERSON CAN BE GOD

    AND THIS WAS JESUS

    THE SON OF GOD

    HE TOOK UPON HIM THE FORM

    OF A SERVANT BEING MADE

    IN THE LIKE N’EST OF MEN.

    THIS THE ONLY TRUTH

    ETERNAL TRUTH

     

     

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    Jodi

    you

     

    Hi Berean,

    YOU: Psalm 8 have nothing to do with Jesus in particularity

    ME: It has EVERYTHING to do with JESUS as you are directly given in Hebrews 2.

    Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste deat…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    Jodi

     

    Human interpretation

    Psalm 8  have nothing to do with Jesus in particularity .He speak about man not Jésus.

    What do you do with:

    “He shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:5)” ?????????????????

     

    Jodi

    Don’t run away from the reality of God’s word

    The Word is Jesus who was in t…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    Jodi

    you

     

    “PSALM 8 tells you that the ONE who created the heavens YHWH, becomes mindful of a HUMAN BEING, visits him, makes him a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, CROWNS this human being with glory and honor, and gives this human being dominion over that which YHWH created”

    ME

    Isaiah 9:6 IS VERY CLEAR

    No need for…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

     

    Hi to all

     

    “For a child is born to us, a son is given to us…” (Isaiah 9:5)

    For a child is born to us, a son is given to us, and dominion shall rest upon his shoulder; and he shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:5)

    (Isaiah 7:1-16) The Syrian-Ephraim war had served as the historical…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    I meant that if we believe that “dia”
    means “for” in Colossians 1: 16b (all things were created by him, and for him: KJV)
    we have a rehearsal. I think this is rather “strange”

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

     

    To all

    Here is also what I think. The revelations of God to his people are progressive … There is more light on the truth of who God is and who Jesus is in the New Testament than in the Old.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 2 months ago

    We have many clear scriptures that say that it is God the Father alone, and by Himself, who created everything that exists.

    Using the scriptures falsely and against so many other scriptures that prove you wrong is exactly what false teachers do, you and Carmel make a good team. I hope others don’t believe your false confusions.

    Gene

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