Gene

….all things were created by him, and for him:
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
And he is the head of the body, the church: ….

Gêne , A mere man before all things ????

Thank’s Gene for clarifie ….

Proclaimer

quote something that shows what you are telling me here …
See you….

Calm Gene Stop fidgeting and taking people for ….

Bible say that in John the name given to the Son of God IS “THE WORD” Like you say he have other names ok …. like Jesus, THE KING OF KINGS … ETC WHERE IS THE PROBLEM GENE ?WHEN WHE SPEAK OF “THE WORD” WHE KNOW THAT WE SPEAK ABOUT JESUS ​​WHO WAS WITH GOD AND WHO WAS GOD …… He was wit…[Read more]

Amen

Pretty clear isn’t it Berean?

The book of Revelation is the book of books. It unveils some mysteries and more …

Gene

You

Berean…..Please show us “precisely” where a single word says the word of God “is” Jesus? As I recall it says, “in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and “Was GOD”.

In Révélation 19: 13.  Gene

And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

THE ONE WHO IS CALLED “THE…[Read more]

And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
 

Gene or Jodi

In these verses

WHO IS before all things?

WHO IS the head if the church?

is it a question of salvation whether the earth is flat or globe shaped ….
Yes or no ???

Gene

You

Jesus was and is not the word of God “himself”  he is “called” the word of God, as a nickname, why?, because he tells us God the Fathers Words, just as he said he did . “the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY WORDS, but the words of “HIM” that “SENT” me.”

Jesus was and is not the word of God “himself”, he is “called”…[Read more]

Proclaimer

You

JESUS IS THE WORD OF GOD
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  He was with God in the beginning…

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. And we beheld His glory, a glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

DEFINITION OF ‘CREATED’…[Read more]

Mike

There are two significant verses in Hebrews 1

1: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

5

1: 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father.

Jodi

3
panta di autou egeneto kai cwriV autou egeneto oude en o gegonen
1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

cwriV
choris
kho-rece’
adverb from cwra – chora 5561; at a space, i.e. separately or apart from (often as preposition):–beside, by itself, without.

 
without him was not any t…[Read more]

Hi Mike
We disagree about the Son “begotten in eternity past” …. you say “He was created.”
But there is even more serious than that … and that does not make us enemies …. 🙂

To be judge of the quik AND the dead OF ALL the World from the biginning of the world Jésus must omniscient That IS to Say God….

Jodi

You

There is more of the word to be fulfilled in the man of flesh Jesus, including the promise that he as the Son of Man in the glory of our Father is going to return to earth as the ordained promised son of Jesse who will judge the quick and the dead. Also that he is according to the flesh going to sit on his father David’s t…[Read more]

Mike

Good intervention

Jodi

“He was made in the likeness of man, for even though he knew no sin, God made him to be sin for us.

He was found in fashion as a man when he was numbered with transgressors.”

Words OF Jodi but not words OF God

The Words OF God:

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no…[Read more]

Ok Proclaimer

No problème

Have a good day

Proclaimer

You

Berean,  again you are doing exactly what Satan wants you to do, preach a Jesus that is “different” then we are.

Strawman argument. Berean, myself, and others are not denying that he came in the flesh, lived as a man, was of the seed of David, etc.

If this is your counter argument, then you guys have lost.

Of course you didn…[Read more]