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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    @ Mike and Proclaimer

    In fact that is not what I meant. I just meant that before Abraham came into existence, the Son of God existed.
    But still to say about Exodus 3, about the “I AM” … Later maybe …

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    God speaking to the Son:

    Hebrews 1

    And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
    They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
    And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy…[Read more]

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    Jodi

    It’s a shame that you deny the divinity of Jesus … oh yes it’s a shame

     

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    Colossians 1
    all things were created by(dia) him, and for(eiV) him:
    For HIM

    eiV

     

    eiV
    eis
    ice
    a primary preposition; to or into (indicating the point reached or entered), of place, time, or (figuratively) purpose (result, etc.); also in adverbial phrases:–(abundant-)ly, against, among, as, at, (back-)ward, before, by, concerning, + continual,…[Read more]

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    Jodi

    You’re saying nonsense
    really what a misery.
    You are really not inspired by the Heavenly Father.

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    Jodi

    Gene

    In heaven is our Father and it is from there that the divine Son of God comes from…
    He himself said:
    I came down from Heaven to do not my will but the will of the One who sent me.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene

    You

    “I believe Jesus is exactly what he said he is, where does the idea come from that I don’t believe. I’m not saying that Jesus doesn’t have divine nature, which I have you quoted in the scriptures, so are those who are saved. ”

    Me

    When the bible speaks of the divine nature of Jesus it means what is written in John 1: 1
    Those who are…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Unitarians deny the divinity of Jesus, they are not in the faith handed down to the saints once and for all (Jude 1: 3) Believing in the divinity of Christ does not mean believing in the Trinity, for there is only one God Father YAHWEH.
    BECAUSE JESUS IS GOD’S OWN SON (Rom. 8: 3), HE IS GOD BY NATURE.
    THE JEWS CRUCIFIED OUR LORD, THEY DIDN’T…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene

    You don’t differentiate between being filled with the Spirit of God and having the Divine nature (being God)

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead(deity) (Colossians 2:8,9)

    In Stephen there was no fullness of divinity.
    It is one thing to be filled with the Holy Spirit and another to have the…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

     

    THE SON OF MAN

    88 matches.

    Matt.8
    And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
    Matt.9
    But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine hou…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene

    In you or in me does not live
    the fullness of divinity.
    In Jesus YES. It is another thing to be filled with the Holy Spirit; in his very essence Jesus is God; the reason is that HE IS THE OWN SON OF GOD.
    ON THE OTHER HAND, HE IS NOT “A” SON OF MAN BUT “THE” SON OF MAN.

    When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene

    Unitarianism which denies the divinity and humanity of Christ is doomed to total annihilation.
    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead(deity) (Colossians 2:8,9)

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene

    You’re saying nonsense
    you are dishonest and you tire me out.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene

    And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.(John17:5)

    You see well That Jesus was WITH His Father in Heaven BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Lexicon :: Strong’s G1096 – ginomai

    γίνομαι
    Transliteration
    ginomai (Key)
    Pronunciation
    ge’-no-mi (Key)
    Part of Speech
    verb
    Root Word (Etymology)
    A prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb
    Greek Inflections of γίνομαι 
    mGNT
    670x in 81 unique form(s) TR
    676x in 87 unique form(s) LXX
    1,703x in 103 unique form(s)γεγενημένον — 2…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

     

    Gene

    In John 8:58 Jesus makes it clear that he existed BEFORE ABRAHAM
    THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE
    SO DON’T THINK THAT I BELIEVE YOUR FALSE REASONING.
    YES JESUS IS BIGGER THAN ABRAHAM
    1- IN AGE
    2- IN IMPORTANCE
    THE BIBLE IS FULL OF QUOTES ON THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST AND HIS PREEXISTENCE.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    When you’re an old man … it’s hard to turn back …
    It’s easier to break an atom than to break a prejudice

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene

    Yes verse 53 it is about the importance
    but in verse 57,58 of the age …. Also it is clear for me that Jesus existed long before Abraham.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 9 months ago

    Gene
    JOHN 8 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
    GREATER

    meizwn
    meizon
    mide’-zone
    irregular comparative of megaV – megas 3173; larger (literally or figuratively, specially, in age):–elder, greater(-est), more.

     

     

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