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    Gene

    the messenger, angel who forbids John to worship him is certainly Gabriel … but his name is not mentioned in the book of Revelation. In Daniel, it was Gabriel who was sent to teach Daniel. Mary, mother of Jesus had a visit from the angel Gabriel before she became pregnant … Joseph also.

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    Jodi and Gene

    As long as you deny the divinity of Christ, you cannot see the puzzle picture of truth in all its beauty and solemnity.

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    The Church which keeps the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus is not Trinitarian according to the Babylonian Church.
    She believes in the One who gave HIS OWN SON WHO COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO DO THE WILL OF GOD THE FATHER.

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    The true ISRAEL

    The true Israel is SPIRITUAL ISRAEL, THE ONE THAT KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THE FAITH OF JESUS (REV.14: 12)
    IN REALITY THIS IS THE CHURCH OF GOD (1Timothy 3:15)
    the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

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    Gene

    You

    You select the scriptures, then add words to them that fuel your misunderstandings while not even mentioning the mountain of scriptures that prove you wrong. Remember the Bereans only had the “Old Testament” to search for the truth, that’s what you have to do and then you can see how the Tritic translators forced the text to say what…[Read more]

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    Gene

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    Proclaimer you or they have not produced a single spicific scripture that says Jesus was alive before he was ever born on this earth..  if it is there please produce it,  remember I said a single , “SPECIFIC” scripture that say that, says Jesus was alive before he was born on this earth.  Not spinoffs,  you can force to say that , but a…[Read more]

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    bible calls Jesus the Son of God even before his human birth.

    Consider Nebuchadnezzar when he saw a fourth figure like the Son of God if the fiery furnace:

    He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the
    form of the fourth is like the Son of God. (Daniel 3:25)

    Solomon…[Read more]

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    Gene
    BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS , I WAS …John 8:38
    Jesus never said he was more important than Abraham (although he was) … If he had been, he would have said it clearly so that a child would easily understand him.

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    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead BODILY (Colossians 2:9)

    GODHEAD= divinity

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    Jodi…….It’s wrong
    In the beginning WAS the Word and the Word was with the God and The Word was God
    The Son OF God is the only ONE WHO IS CALLED “THE WORD OF GOD” (SEE RÉVÉLATION 19:13)

    For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead (Colossians 2:9)

    GODHEAD= divinity

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    As long as you deny
    THE DIVINITY OF THE SON OF GOD, YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF THE LOVE OF GOD.

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Berean 5 years, 7 months ago

    COLOSSIANS 2:8,9
    Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
     For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
    THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT

     

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Berean 5 years, 7 months ago

     

     

     
    BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS
       I       AM
     

     

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    Jodi

    But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

     

    Jesus is the divine Son of God whose origin dates back to the days of eternity.
    He alone could become the SAVIOR of the…[Read more]

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    Jodi

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    “Jesus the Anointed with the Spirit not by measure thus CAME to the people IN THE FLESH having COME FROM GOD, SENT INTO THE WORLD DIRECTLY DOWN FROM HEAVEN. ”

     

    Me

    You play the “spiritualist” Jodi

    That’s not what the Bible says.
    1) The divin Son if God came down from heaven to our earth.
    2) He was made flesh
    3) As an adult, he began…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Berean 5 years, 7 months ago

    Gene…..oh how far off you are
    It is you who follow the Father of lies. Jesus came down from Heaven to do the will of his Father (John 6)
    He was with HIM in glory on his throne. (John 17) And he was God (John 1: 1)
    And THE WORD was made flesh (John 1:14)
    You see the bible helps us to unmask false teachings.

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    Berean replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 5 years, 7 months ago

    Proclaimer and all,

    The Son OF God (his name is called The Word of God.) Was in the biginning, he was WITH (THE) GOD, and He WAS God.The same was in the beginning with (the )GOD.

    GOD bless

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Berean 5 years, 7 months ago

    For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.1 Cor.8:9

     

    When was he rich?
    I believe it was when he was in heaven with his Father and shared his glory.

    He became poor when, to enrich us and save us, he took over our humanity.

    Who, being in…[Read more]

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    Berean replied to the topic in the forum Berean 5 years, 7 months ago

    For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
    though he was rich,….

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    Gene

    What you preach is not right. And you would like us to believe you ….?
    Jesus is the One named THE WORD in John 1. It’s the truth; a child can understand it.
    Why does the Son of God have several titles, names …?
    It is that God is a pedagogical God. Each name or title for the Son of God or for another person means something special that…[Read more]

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