barley replied to the topic Is there a true church to go to today? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2009,07:53)my question is, are today christians true to God and Christ asemble in a particular churche ?if yes .were?if no . why?Terrarica,Are today's Christians true to God and Christ?True? as in perfect? Clearly not, all men have sinned and fell short of the glory of God. We all err at times, we all mi…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic John 17:5 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 09 2010,14:33)Hi All,John 17:5 NRSVSo now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had in your presence before the world existed.My main point is that the word “para”, which has been rendered as “in the presence of”, “together with”, and “at your side” is listed twice in the Greek text.IMO, the…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic John 8:38 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2010,13:08)Quote (barley @ Aug. 30 2010,08:39)God is everywhere. The Father's presence is everywhere. He is with you right now. He is with me right now.Hi barley,I wonder why then that Jesus stated that sentence as a contrast to the ones he was speaking with?Would they not ALL have “seen things in the Father's pr…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Show me the fruit in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 2 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Sep. 01 2010,11:04)Quote (barley @ Aug. 31 2010,13:12)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 31 2010,06:44)martianDoctrines don't change hearts, surgeons do; scripture is supposed to change your mind, your thinking and behavior.You must not go by any churches doctrine, you have to rely on the word of God, the Bible.Doctrines don't show you the path,…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Show me the fruit in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Aug. 31 2010,06:44)martianDoctrines don't change hearts, surgeons do; scripture is supposed to change your mind, your thinking and behavior.You must not go by any churches doctrine, you have to rely on the word of God, the Bible.Doctrines don't show you the path, the Bible does.God does not need protection, we do.Again, doctrines…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic What is truth? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 27 2010,00:48)People say they are searching for the truth, is this “true”?Is knowledge “truth” and what “knowledge” is true?God is Spirit until they find out that Spirit in Hebrew is feminine.Appears people say they want Truth and then ignore Her when She is presented. And after being presented with the Truth (Spirit is…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic What kind of bodies did man have before the fall? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 26 2010,15:55)To all that seek the truth,I have a mystery that I would propose for you to think on. This mystery involves interpreting 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and some surrounding scriptures so I have included it for your use. It is also about the Garden of Eden.1 Corinthians 15:50-54(NIV) reads:Quote I declare to you, b…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic John 8:38 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2010,13:15)Hi All,Ready for another one?John 8:38 (New International Version)38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you do what you have heard from your father.”Does this not clearly say that the person Jesus had “seen” things “in the Father's presence”?peace and love,mikeMikeboll,Bring it on…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Begotten god in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,11:04)Quote (barley @ Aug. 28 2010,18:50)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 24 2010,12:52)There is ONE verse in the Bible (NASB) that says “begotten God”:Jhn 1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the only “begotten (of) God” who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.I tried to explain that the word “of” is not…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Is the trinity doctrine anti-christ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2010,15:48)Quote (barley @ Aug. 29 2010,15:33)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2010,02:11)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 23 2010,21:51)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 23 2010,21:44)Hi T8,Jer.1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. John 15:27…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Is the trinity doctrine anti-christ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 23 2010,15:55)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 23 2010,11:40)T8……….So you believe this preexistent being completely wiped out all his past memory and had to learn all over again As a human being ,If he existed with divine nature and emptied himself and existed in human nature, then I guess that it would be very possible. But that…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Is the trinity doctrine anti-christ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2010,02:11)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 23 2010,21:51)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 23 2010,21:44)Hi T8,Jer.1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Is the trinity doctrine anti-christ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 14 2010,13:52)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 14 2010,02:11)Fair enough t8. But on a thread I started about Nick's interpretation of 2 Corinthians 5:19 you said that I made an antichrist statement:Quote KJ, God was in Christ.The alternative is that God wasn't in Christ.And it doesn't say that God is Christ.The first line is right, the…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Colossians 1:15-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,14:53)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 26 2010,19:11)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2010,10:28)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 26 2010,08:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2010,15:21)Martian, barley, Marty………….right on brothers, Preexistence is nothing but a false teaching deriving its source from the trinitarians and created to…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Colossians 1:15-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Baker @ Aug. 26 2010,01:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2010,15:21)Martian, barley, Marty………….right on brothers, Preexistence is nothing but a false teaching deriving its source from the trinitarians and created to backup their Jesus is a GOD dogmas. Thank GOD of you guise at least some see and understand this. Barley i believe…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Begotten god in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 24 2010,12:52)There is ONE verse in the Bible (NASB) that says “begotten God”:Jhn 1:18 No one has seen God at any time; the only “begotten (of) God” who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.I tried to explain that the word “of” is not used in Greek and was not inserted by translators in English in this…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Colossians 1:15-16 in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 23 2010,14:09)Well hello there Professor Fun,While I sometimes call Jesus God's “co-creator”, I always put it in quotes, because as Gene is quick to remind us, God ALONE created the heavens and the earth. And Rev 4:11 bears this out,11″You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you cr…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Why must christ pre-exist? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 25 2010,09:17)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2010,16:26)Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 25 2010,09:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 23 2010,10:21)Terricca…………So what if your parents conceived you in Sin (LUST FOR SEX) that still does not Mean YOU were (Born) a SINNER. A Child is not a Sinner He or She is totally innocent of Sin.…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Virgin birth in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 17 2010,21:57)Some more thoughts on Isa 7:14 taken from a Jewish article….”A very prominent prophecy is claimed in Isaiah vii., 14,but in order to understand it better we will cite with it thepreceding verses 13 and 14. Here Isaiah says to the wickedKing Ahaz : “Hear ye now, O house of David ; it is a smallthing to you to…[Read more]
barley replied to the topic Does it really matter in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ Aug. 21 2010,21:21)Quote (barley @ Aug. 21 2010,12:39)Shimmer,Looking up the word logos in a concordance is most enlightening.Of over 200 uses, the vast majority of the uses fit the standard definition, “the thought behind the words used.” Rhema, a different word, refers to the words used. Only in John 1 does some people try…[Read more]
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