Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 10 2010,15:12)To all,On Nov. 08 2010,06:26 Mike Boll posted to the Preexistence thread in the Traditions forum:Quote Well, I was reading in 2 Cor today and found this:2 Corinthians 8:8-9 NIV8 I am not commanding you, but I want to test the sincerity of your love by comparing it with the earnestness of others. 9 For you know…[Read more]

Quote (KingdomMessage @ Nov. 23 2010,12:06)Join author and professor of Bible Sir Anthony Buzzard as he explains very concisely in this video the basics of the Abrahamic Faith practiced by Jesus. Unfortunately today most Christians don't concern themselves with the things Jesus actually taught and believed! So in response to that horrible trend,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 22 2010,03:09)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 21 2010,14:27)John 8:44 for example says 'THE Devil' (identifier) and 'a murderer' (qualifier/nature/characteristic). Saying a murder is not identifying the murderer. That has already been done where is says THE Devil.Hi t8,Yet it doesn't say in English, “THE Devil was murderer” does it?…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 21 2010,19:14)Pierre,You ask where scripture states the divine righteousness of God is part of his nature?As to the word “nature” the definition is “A spontaneous attitude”.As to the word “divine” the definition is “of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God or a god”.I thus point out that the words divine nature a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2010,15:13)Quote (barley @ Nov. 10 2010,20:48)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2010,15:46)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2010,21:56)Pierre,There are no scriptures that support the idea that Jesus preexists his birth and these scriptures support the idea Jesus and John the Baptist originated in their mother's wombs as that is what…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 10 2010,14:05)Whoa!  Take it easy there oatmeal! barley:Quote God is light and in him is no darkness at all.Hmmmmm…… Jesus says he is the Light that came into the world. (John 3:19)  And John says this about that “Light”:6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning t…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 10 2010,15:07)Quote (barley @ Nov. 10 2010,21:03)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 09 2010,17:10)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2010,23:09)Pierre,I believe that you interpret scriptures to support the tenet of Preexistence, but that does not mean they do.  The way I understand those same scriptures the do not so I spoke what I am…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 09 2010,17:10)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2010,23:09)Pierre,I believe that you interpret scriptures to support the tenet of Preexistence, but that does not mean they do.  The way I understand those same scriptures the do not so I spoke what I am confident is true.What does your interpretation have to do with godliness which…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 09 2010,16:25)Just Askin,My point is it is a comparison pointing out both were conceived in their mother's womb.  If there is no evidence that John the Baptist, who is called the prophet Elijah in scripture, is preexistent then there is no evidence that Jesus is preeexistent.Kerwin,You must have gone to God for that one.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 09 2010,14:23)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2010,14:49)Now God can do anything except evil and so Jesus could have been reincarnated as a human which would be the angel is born in a human body.  In that case it is only the soul which pre-exists. Reincarnation is not a biblical teaching.Hi Kewin,The angels were created through…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 09 2010,07:54)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2010,21:56)Pierre,There are no scriptures that support the idea that Jesus preexists his birth and these scriptures support the idea Jesus and John the Baptist originated in their mother's wombs as that is what conceived means.kerwinwhy is it you make flat lies??is it your men logic…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Nov. 08 2010,18:54)Kerwin,There is no evidence and not even any attempt by anyone (except you) that John the Baptist was anyone other than himself as a created human being.Please either drop this nonesense or bring forward some reason or evidence why you brought this theme here in this thread.Just askin,Kerwin's point is well…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 08 2010,15:46)Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 08 2010,21:56)Pierre,There are no scriptures that support the idea that Jesus preexists his birth and these scriptures support the idea Jesus and John the Baptist originated in their mother's wombs as that is what conceived means.Kerwinunless you answer to all the scriptures in the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 08 2010,12:42)Hi Kerwin,Is it possible for God to take an angel that he created 1 billion years ago, and have it born again from a female hippopotamus if He wanted to?Go view the pre-existent database thread.  We are up to about 35 scriptures now.  How can you make them all just “disappear”?  mikeMikeboll,No! God is no…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 10 2010,02:52)Hi Everyone,Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving-kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name.Do people actually think this means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word? Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:…[Read more]

Quote (Guest @ Oct. 31 2010,14:09)Before i make my response I study with the Jehovah's witnesses but i'm not baptized as one, also i've been reading up on the history of the church and it's various doctrines and i've looked at the bible students.A lot of people use the word cult for so-called unorthodox religion. However the definition of the word…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ June 02 2009,07:50)Quote (meerkat @ June 02 2009,08:44)Quote (bodhitharta @ June 02 2009,08:39)Quote (Paladin @ June 02 2009,03:09)Jesus did not die on Friday, he died on Thursday. Actually there are two Sabbaths” under consideration, and they are referenced by Mathew's account. Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbatwn , as it…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 28 2003,15:41)Taken from http://www.tegart.com This is for reference only, and I am not endorsing the conclusion found at the end of this article.========A Simple Outline regarding I John 5:7by Doug KutilekI John 5: 7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, The Word, and the Holy Ghost:  and these three are one. It is…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2010,10:10)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 17 2010,16:58)Mike ……….. It say Phi 2:5 -8……….Let the minds be (IN) you, which was (also) in Christ Jesus: who (being) or (Existing) past tense  in the form or nature of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with GOD, But (made) or as translated 88 time as (came) or…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 17 2010,04:31)Hi barley,Okay…………..please explain to me how something that already IS a cat can be “made in the likeness of a cat”.And we aren't talking about “kings”, “lords” and “servants” right now.  We are talking ONLY about the part that says Jesus was “made in the likeness of a human being”.  And it doesn't s…[Read more]