The anti-trinitarians here argue that the word “ONE LORD” (Deut. 6:4) argues that Christ cannot be God. WJ and I have tried to show you time and time again that the Hebrew word for “one” is “echad” and often refers to a plural one. We have given the example of Moses saying that the husband and his wife shall be “one flesh.”But some of you guys…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 24 2010,10:21)Barley said:Quote Nowhere does it say that the son is God.  At least not in the sense of saying that the son is The God.The Father calls the Son “The God” (hotheos) in Hebrews 1:8:8But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, (hotheos) is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 24 2010,04:49)Quote (barley @ June 23 2010,12:40)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2007,15:43)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 24 2007,16:37)Quote (Cubes @ April 24 2007,12:22)It bears repeating, and to have scripture interpret scripture:Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our GOD one YHWH: Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2010,15:57)Quote (barley @ June 24 2010,11:03)Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2010,15:35)Barley,What do you mean when you state we fullfill the law without fullfiling all of the works of the Law?I ask because you sound like your understanding is similar to mine on this issue but due to the nature of language I cannot be sure. I…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 24 2010,15:47)Barley,Thank you for answering my request.  I have some concerns to air.You are correct that Paul teaches us that the Law is our schoolmaster until the comming of the new covenant.  It is our schoolmaster in making us aware of our sins and providing a way to atone for them though it does not aid us in o…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 25 2010,15:34)Hi AllRecently someone on this forum said this…Quote OK let's do it your way.  Since Jesus is not like us in every way then he cannot be tempted in all ways like us.This is a fallacy and a misrepresentation of the scriptures, for Jesus would have to be like the rapist and the Murderer and the child…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ June 24 2010,09:46)Hi Barley, welcome to the forum. That was a good post and somethings to think about.The Word of God  was sent from Heaven, He was with God. He is the messenger.Its like a friend we have, he all day runs from person to person, with messages from His boss. His boss sits at home, while his 'messenger' does his…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 28 2010,05:45)Quote (martian @ Mar. 27 2010,12:17)When I have questioned  WJ about the impossibility of God becoming a man, he has replied (in essence) that his God can do anything. Hi ALL The above response is a fallacy and a ludicrous assumption that God cannot appear in what ever form he would like. Found…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi Lee @ April 03 2010,09:58)The passover lamb was to be killed the morning of Nissan 14th, and that night the lamb was to be eaten. Jesus and his disciples did just that, and that night Jesus was betrayed. The next day the 15th Jesus was crucified and we are told that the next day was the Sabbath, so Jesus died on a Friday. We are…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ April 08 2010,06:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 07 2010,12:42)Quote (thethinker @ April 07 2010,11:44)Ed J said:Quote The Trinitarians say: Jesus is “The Owner”. The non-Trinitarians reply: Jesus is NOT “The Owner”, Jesus' Father is “The Owner”!The scripture is very clear that Jesus us the “heir” of all things (Hebrews 1).…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 23 2010,15:35)Barley,What do you mean when you state we fullfill the law without fullfiling all of the works of the Law?I ask because you sound like your understanding is similar to mine on this issue but due to the nature of language I cannot be sure. I agree that if you fulfill the command “love your neighbor as yourself”…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2007,11:09)Quote (Cubes @ April 26 2007,09:50)Quote (Tim2 @ April 26 2007,14:01)The Rock, cubes?  You mean YHWH?  Isaiah 44:8.  You mean Jesus?  1 Corinthians 10:4.Hi Tim2,I do not deny Christ but rather exalt him as Christ, the son of God.  No man comes to the Father but by him.How about the Trinity?It is inde…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 26 2007,14:32)Hi Cubes,Please read the ecumenical creeds and the Definition of Chalcedon.  You'll see there that Christians believe Jesus is man as well as God.  Therefore, because He is man, He can serve as prophet, priest and king.  That is why He is compared to Melchizedek.Thank you for showing that the Holy Spirit is Go…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 25 2007,06:49)Hi Cubes,That's an interesting take on it. But I disagree. Adam I, the person, does not indwell us at all, there is not one verse that would suggest this. Also bear in mind that they (The Father and Yeshua) will 'come to us' before they make their “abode” (residence) with us. This is quite an explicit…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 24 2007,15:43)Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 24 2007,16:37)Quote (Cubes @ April 24 2007,12:22)It bears repeating, and to have scripture interpret scripture:Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHWH our GOD one YHWH: Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who above all, and through all, and in you all.  By these scriptures we see that…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 22 2007,16:16)Nick,Saying that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God are three different statements.  Each one is explicitly taught in Scripture.  This isn't putting anything together.  It's just saying what Scripture says. By your own standards you can only believe one statement in the Bible, because if yo…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 22 2007,05:04)Proof that the Spirit is a person:  John 14:16.  The Spirit is called Parakletos, which is by definition a person, a comforter or helper;  as opposed to paraklesis, which means comfort or consolation, and is by definition impersonal.could you define comforter or helper more clearly? Does a fire provide comfort fo…[Read more]

Quote (charity @ April 21 2007,17:13)Rev 5:3  And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. Rev 5:4  And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of t…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ April 22 2007,16:16)Nick,Saying that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Spirit is God are three different statements.  Each one is explicitly taught in Scripture.  This isn't putting anything together.  It's just saying what Scripture says. By your own standards you can only believe one statement in the Bible, because if yo…[Read more]

Quote (Is 1:18 @ April 21 2007,17:03)I'll ask again.NH,Can you give us your understanding of John 1:1c“….and the Word was God”What do you suppose John meant by this statement?Perhaps we should get back to basics here.What is the basic meaning of the word, logos?Logos means message or communication or the thoughts or meaning behind the words…[Read more]