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Isa 53:6   All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

I want to reply with a quote from http://www.netzarim.co.il containing a translation according to etymology: “(And he is being profaned from our felonies, being crushed from our misdemeanors; the chastisement for our welfare is upon him, and in his wounds we may heal ourselves.)

Heal Ourselves?
Nothing could be more perfectly in line with Tor•âh′, which stipulates that one must do his or her utmost to keep the mi•tzәw•ot′ Tor•âh′ (see, inter alia, the Shәm•a′) in return for which ha-Sheim′ promises ki•pur′. In diametric contrast to Christianity's displacement theology, man-g-d and misojudaism, tәshuv•âh′ is ha-Sheim′'s “plan of salvation.”

The only way one can be “healed” is by tәshuv•âh′: “healing oneself”!!! י–ה requires that you serve Him according to His Tor•âh′. No one can do that for you!

In the 1st century, Rib′i Yәho•shu′a was profaned by the false charges leveled at him by the pseudo-Tzәdoq•im′, false charges causing his undeserved death: felonies. He was wrongly crushed by the silence of fellow Jews—”standing idly by his blood”—in the face of the Hellenists (particularly the Roman occupiers): misdemeanors. Unlike Rabbi Aqiva, Rib′i Yәho•shu′a didn't muster a fighting army. Thus, also unlike Rabbi Aqiva, the wrath of the Romans occupiers was vented in one man: Rib′i Yәho•shu′a. The Hellenists, particularly the Roman occupiers, took out their wrath (which was against the anti-Hellenist Pәrush•im′, whom the Hellenists viewed as a a political threat) on Rib′i Yәho•shu′a. Thus, “our welfare [was] upon him.”

Since 135 C.E., Rib′i Yәho•shu′a has been profaned by the Jewish acceptance, echoing and promulgation of the most basic Christian Gospel linchpin: that the post-135 C.E. misojudaic Christian Jesus is the same as, lә-hav•dil′, the Pәrush•i′ Rib′i Yәho•shu′a. Thus, Jews have been complicit with Christians in cloaking Rib′i Yәho•shu′a in a feculent mantle of Christian idolatry and misojudaism. (See, in this connection, Zәkhar•yâh′ chapter 3.)

Because of his willingness to pay the ultimate price to adhere to Tor•âh′—and the results in forever changing the world and its destiny, “in his wounds we may heal ourselves”: that is, we may learn to (make tәshuv•âh′ as necessary to) emulate his example of adhering to the mi•tzәw•ot′ Tor•âh′ despite any cost.” (found in the above website; in History Museum (left panel); Mashiakh-section (top menu))

Anders Branderud

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“Well, we know then that we are saved by faith so that it might be by grace, and not of works lest any man should boast. Nevertheless, we do know that faith without works is dead.”

Le-havdil, How to live in order to enable the Creator in His loving kindness to provide His foregivness is outlined in Tan’’kh ( the Jewish Bible) ; and was also taught by the first century Ribi Yehoshua from Nazareth (the Mashiakh; the Messiah) (His teachings are found here: http://www.netzarim.co.il )

Tan’’kh – for example Yekhëzqeil (Hezekiel) 18 – promises foregiveness to those and only those who do their sincerest to keep the mitzwot (directive or military-style orders ) in Torah. The Creator cannot lie and He does not change (Malakhi 3:6)!

Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakh lived and kept Torah with the sincerest of his heart, died innocently and became a sacrifice. Because of that the Creator can give His foregiveness for the short comings (in keeping Torah) to everyone doing his/her sincerest to keep His instructions found in Torah, and to everyone turning away from their Torah-breaches to instead starting to do their sincerest to keep the instructions in Torah.

Anders Branderud

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Quote: “you right it was the corruption of the Jewish rulers that were the problem and caused to fulfill the dead of the Christ.”

A logical analysis (found in http://www.netzarim.co.il (that is the website of the only legitimate Netzarim-group)) of all extant source documents and archeology proves that the historical Ribi Yehosuha ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) from Nazareth and his talmidim (apprentice-students), called the Netzarim, taught and lived Torah all of their lives; and that Netzarim and Christianity were always antithetical.

This implies that Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakh is not the same as the Christian Jesus.
Regarding the death of Ribi Yehoshua:

“The Jews who shouted for the Romans to execute Ribi Yehoshua were the Temple-based Sadducees (Hebrew Mt. 26.57ff). (“Ribi” is different from rabbi or rebbe. Ribi designated Pharisaic rabbis ordained in Judea during the time of the Temple.) Generalizing from the Temple-based Sadducees to “the Jews” is either a logical fallacy or misojudaism. The pivotal question, the answer to which may solve the controversy, is “Which Jews were, and weren't, standing with the Temple-based Sadducees shouting for the Romans to execute him?” (quote: Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben Dawid)

Anders Branderud

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A logical analysis (found here: http://www.netzarim.co.il (the only legitimate Netzarim-website)) of the earliest manusscripts (including the logical implications of the research by Ben-Gurion Univ. Prof. of Linguistics Elisha Qimron of Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT)) of “the gospel of Matthew”, implies that Ribi Yehoshua was a Perushi (Pharisee). Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) from Nazareth was called a Ribi and only the Perushim had Ribis.

The current earliest manusscripts of “the gospel of Matthew” contains words a first century Ribi would never have said, and thus a reconstruction is needed.
[Even according to the most authoritative Christian scholars, e.g., The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, NT contains redactions (see quote from that book in the below website; click on “Glossaries”; click on “NT”)]
Ribi Yehoshua taught this in NHM 23:1-3:
”Then Yehoshua spoke to the qehilot and to his talmidim saying, ”The Sophrim and those of the Rabbinic-Perushim sect of Judaism who advocate that Halakhah must be exclusively oral sit upon the bench of Mosheh. So now, keep shomeir and do concering everything – as much as they shall tell you! Just don’t imitate their maaseh because they say but they don’t do.”
The Rabbinic-Perushim taught that one should follow the mitzwot (directive or military-style orders), and Ribi Yehoshua taught that one should listen to that.

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